Marty5379

Hey 10 - remember two things: 1) spin at the base and 2) spin the mid-shaft. In other words, grip at the bottom of the base and spin. After a couple of rounds and with a stretched/loosened Dick Cheney, grip just under mid-shaft and spin. By doing this you are attacking the entire lower half of the shaft. Sometimes I do the spins starting at the base and gradually work my way toward the mid-shaft.

Glad you are becoming a believer. All you other infidels need to become believers These things are for real. Thank you JP for this method!

10

Hey Marty:

I was never a "non believer", I was simply too damn lazy to deal with them. Now that I have and I can visibly see the benefits, yeah, I'm on track with ya.

Actually, if truth be know, I do spin at the base and work my up the shaft. I've noticed that if I spin at mid shaft, it's a bit trickier. If I start at the base and work my way up, it's alot easier. And, my dick stretches out unbelievably!! Perfect in fact for a good hang session.

I rather enjoy spinning my dick like a helicopter propeller. Kind of fun. Oh, and btw, my dick also hits my thigh when I do that. Guess I'm getting longer :)

"Infidels" Marty? You crack me up!! lol

sikdogg

I've always done the spins but not as part of my routine, but as a warm-up kind of thing before doing my PE routine.

10

I do them now everytime, whether I'm doing hanging/stretching or girth. BTW, Dogg, now hanging 12 lbs!

Marty5379

Point well taken. In my not so expert opinion, the only time you MUST squeeze the blood from the head is when hanging, and even then there may be exceptions. When I hung I had to remove the blood from the head because of the downward pressure against the upper shaft/head. However, with the penimaster there is not too much "pushing" pressure toward the head. Rather the head is just an anchor and as such a large anchor (or engorged anchor) can prevent slippage. I don't think the PM generates enough pressure on the head to be dangerous. However, this is just my opinion. Whatever you feel is safe, that is what you should do.

Marty5379

All of us who have been here for a while used to constantly remind members that what we were doing to our Dick Cheney was what worked for our Dick Cheney. What works for my Dick Cheney may not work for your Dick Cheney. Every Dick Cheney is different. But what works for my Dick Cheney is what I am going to write about. Don't take it as gospel. It is not. However, if it is working for my Dick Cheney, then I will tell folks about it so they can try it on their Dick Cheney.

Take JP for example. His Dick Cheney has moved from Vice President to President. Or better yet, his Dick Cheney is a dicktator! I've studied his routines all the way down to the fine print. I've tried them all. However, some of what worked for JP's Dick Cheney showed no promise on my Dick Cheney. But some of what he did has worked for me. Point being that you should read with interest the things that are written here. Create a log of weapons to use on Dick Cheney. Try them all. When you find something that works, ride it out until it works no more. However, take note of the success you had with this routine/method. Then move on to something new until you find something else that makes Dick Cheney salute. Ride it until he salutes you no more. At this time you might consider going back to the first method/routine and giving it another try. In other words, ride what works until it stops working. Then change to something else that works and ride it out. When it stops, try something new, even something you did earlier that was positive.

The subject of this particular thread really contains nothing new as far as methods are concerned. However, it is the combination of proven methods that may be somewhat new. That is the key! I know my Dick Cheney has a brain and remembers and adapts. When he adapts to one thing, I throw something else at him and get back on the victory train. A mixture of proven and effective Dick Cheney exercises is something that has worked for me. This thread offers a variation in the combining of things we all have done at one time or another.

In all, we are all just Dick chokers. You choke yours, I choke mine. Yours grows. You tell us how you made it grow. We all consider how you made it grow and incorporate it into our book of tugs and chokes. Ours grows and we tell you how it grew. You consider the evidence and choke yours the same way if need be. Remember that none of us are Dick Cheney choking scientist. We're all learning from each other. Take everything with a grain of salt and proceed with caution. However, along with caution you can proceed with hope if what you are doing to your Dick Cheney has made another's Dick Cheney grow in stature.

JonPop

WOW! Great post Marty. Thanks for taking the time to sit down and put this into words. JonPop

P.S. I have a sneaking feeling that you are NOT a Replublican. Ha.
I live in a BLUE state, so you KNOW where I stand.
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10

I'll second that Marty! Too bad though there isn't a Miracle Grow for penis' hehe

Marty5379

For the record, Dick Cheney has been admired by this man since I was old enough to pay attention to and understand politics. My penis is my most prized possession. It should be counted as an honor by anyone to have my penis named after them. Dick Cheney is one of my heros. No bullshit in him. Straight shooter. Hell, if I were gay I'd marry him. When choosing a name for my penis, I wanted to name him after someone whom I felt was strong, hard, always ready, man of few words, and someone who did not mind calling his political enemies a son of a bitch and then own up to it when questioned by the press. One such person is Dick Cheney. My wife's pussy is named George Bush. Dick and Bush are welcomed in this house anytime. Dick likes Bush; Bush likes Dick. And thank God there will be four more years of Dick and Bush.

By the way, I am not a Republican. I am further to the right, believe me. However, when there is no one as far to the right as myself, then I vote for the lesser of all evils. I think in these parts we have voted for the Republican canidate since ... forever. We don't like bullshitters down here! And we damn sure love our guns, beer, and low taxes.

(Anyone who intends on hijacking this thread so you can discuss politics needs to start your own. Ain't discussing it. No need because I cannot be moved and have no patience with the topic. Hence, I stray away from it lest I sin or offend or both )

10

I'm also going to guess Marty that you're a member of the NRA?? Don't really care just curious.

Marty5379

I have been at different times in the past. Those different times are the times when some asshole that has CIA protection tried to remove my only means of protection. Hell, the asshole doesn't need the right to bear arms. He's deducting money out of my check (taxes) and hiring security (CIA). So what is it to him if he takes that right away from me? Not a F***ing thing since he has personal security. I can't afford personal security, but I can damn sure afford the tools to protect my family and I.

So to answer your question again, I join the NRA and contribute heavily when an asshole in Washington threatens to take away my personal and family protection. I have not been a member since Dick and Bush have occupied the Lewinsky office. Dick is from Wyoming. Bush is from Texas. Don't have to worry about my heavy metal with a Dick and a Bush up there.

Now back to talking about peter beaters

10

OK, question answered. As far as clamping is concerned, I did some this afternoon during my girth routine and I got the little bumps on my glans you had mentioned. I still need to find the "right" spot on my base to minimize backflow, but otherwise, get a real good intense workout from it. I'll also tell you that I've solidly formed the basis for what will eventually be my 9x7 in a couple years. I can already tell based on my erection size that I'm not that far from possessing my own heavy metal ;)

Gb76

Thanks Marty for the link. The specification of the red one is up to 1" diameter, which makes the circumference 3.14". Will it be large enough? (as if I had a horse dick. )

Also, it seems the place only sells them in pack. How long will a clamp last? I am thinking to get a small quantity at first in case my dick is too weak to use the strong force. I also checked Wal-mart and homedepot online, neither of them has it.

Thanks again.

btw. It's the first time I know "duluth", is it a big online store?

Marty5379

Gb - everyone that I know who clamps and everything that I've read on clamping usually involved the use of the red or orange clamp. Remember that when you clamp you are going to put the clamp on BEFORE you obtain a full erection. And then when you are erect you are going to clamp - tighten and squeeze.

The part that breaks on the clamp is the thing that bites down into the teeth. After pulling up on it to release the clamp it eventually wears. But we are talking very extended service out of one of these things. As long as I have been clamping I have only worn out one. After I broke that one I bought two so I'd have a spare. The main body of the clamp is probably unbreakable when used on a dick. Like I said, it's the part that locks and unlocks into the teeth on the clamp arm that allows for tightening, untightening, that wears out and breaks off.

Go to google.com and type this phrase exactly as I put it here: "cable clamps" red

Be sure to include the quotes around cable clamp. These things are sold at various places and I know I've seen the pack on line that Wal-Mart sells here. As a matter of fact, I am going to look for you right now so I can put it in the links section on this forum.

10

Marty:

I'm supposed to clamp BEFORE full erection occurs? Well, PE is certainly a learn as you go process. I've been applying the clamp after I've achieved full erection. Maybe that's the reason why I'm getting slight backflow?????? Thanks for the insight.

BTW, I've got two of the orange clamps. They were two bucks a piece. Dogg got them for me at Home Depot I believe.

sikdogg

Putting the clamp on before or after you get an erection is irrevelent... the point is that you lock it in place and begin constricting AFTER you have achieved some level of erection. Redzulu's constrictor guide clearly shows pics of SWM applying the clamp after achieving an erection, but as i mentioned above whether you put it on before or after is irrevelent.

Home Depot sells the orange clamps for $.99 each.

10

Thanks for the clarification Dogg!! I figured it was like pumping. I don't put my dick in the pump until I'm erect.

Marty5379

I think when you put the clamp on is relevant. I have never been able to do with a full erection what I am able to do with a partial. For instance, with a full erection take the power jelq and squeeze at the base to give the ULI effect. Next, with a lesser erection do the same thing. Back before cable clamps I used the PJ as my ULI device. This is where I learned that optimal expansion did not occur when attempted with a full erection. But with a less than full erection I was able to squeeze the penis at the base and create more of an indention and all but explode everything above it.

I eventually made a "Uli thingy" as it was called by Bib. As he did, I would install the Uli thingy, kegel up the pressure, tighten, kegel up the pressure, tighten, etc. By the time I finished I had every chamber busting outward and a shinny head.

Beginning with a full erection seems to lack in that all the chambers do not fill to capacity. For instance, clamping with a full erection does not affect the expansion of my head or the bottom chamber as much as beginning with a slight erection, tightening a little, kegel, tighten, kegel, etc. Why? Don't know. If I knew I'd be a Dick doctor.

Don't take my word or anyone else's word. Hell, people can say anything on here, including me. Best thing to do is to take your dick and try both ways. Dicks are different and respond to different things. I've tried it both ways. Bib's way, for me, fills every chamber to capacity. Starting with a full erection and then clamping seems to prohibit me from forcing more pressure to certain areas.

Another thing about erect clamping and squeezes that bothers me is that when I was doing that very thing I suffered an injury. Never was 100% certain if it was a vein or something else down there that hardened up on me, and neither was I certain as to what caused it, but I knew what I had added along that time and it was erect squeezes. I've never done them again. But then again, that is what they may have done to my dick and may not do the same to yours.

I've read Redzulu's guide. It should be required reading for all clampers. Also, Bib's writings on the Uli thingy should be required as well. I think Bib was into this knee deep before most ever got wet. Both men have proven success with girth work. For me, I've picked from among their experiences and found something that makes my dick blow up. That's what each of you have to do. I can count on a couple fingers how many people I have been able to follow exactly and see the same results. My Dick just did not always do what theirs did. But, a little of their advice and a little of someone else's usually ends with something that works for me.

Marty5379

10 - it's not like pumping, but we are trying to get to the same destination in both cases - Girth, USA!

The pump simply draws fluid, whether it be blood or the donut fluid, into Dick. Once the fluid is drawn into Dick, the pressure of the pump holds it there.

But with the Uli we are pumping the fluid into Dick. Not donut fluid, but blood. That is perfect for girth work! Unlike the pump, the blood is not held in Dick via outside pressures (such as in the pump), but is held there because there is no way of escape for the blood. The clamp/Uli has the exit blocked. Because of this we are able to begin a Uli routine with a slight erection, kegel, tighten, kegel, tighten, etc., until the chambers are full.

Drop over to Thunder's Place sometime and search for Bib's writings on the Uli thingy. Very good reading. Put his wisdom with Redzulu's and you will know everything known to man about girth work Now go make your vice president a President!

Marty5379

Exactly. I had the same problem. My theory is that with a full erection we may not be able to completely cut off the exit. Why? I have no idea. But if you begin with a partial erection and clamp, then perhaps the exit is more easily closed. At least this is my experience.

10 - Like many things on here you are getting two different views. Grab your Dick and try them both. Stick with what works. Talk about it like it's gospel. Call those who don't do it your way "Infidels!"

Marty5379

GB - click here CABLE CLAMP PACK and scroll down the page a little. This shows a picture of the pack I posted sometime ago. There are a variety of packets (combinations) sold. By the way, the company that makes these things has a web site, but their prices are too high. You can get them cheaper at one of their retailers. CABLE CLAMP WEBSITE

10

Marty:

Again my brother, you are a wealth of knowledge. Shit, you should be a dick doctor. I've actually found that wearing a cockring while pumping stops the suction of donut fluid into Dick Cheney. So, I've been doing that and no longer donut. As for clamping, I'm still playing with it and experimenting but your argument makes sense. Now that I've tried it with a full erection (I get pretty damn huge by doing that!!), I'll try it with a partial next go round and see what that does. Your right, everone's dick is different. I'm still learning what makes mine tick.

I can say one thing for sure, whether I pump or clamp, pjing in between sets is doing great things. From top to bottom, I'm really getting pretty thick. God bless girth!

Gb76

I am really touched, Marty, for your cordial help. My dick solutes to you, though it is not as big as yours.

I'd take a long journey in Walmart this weekend, although I am not sure whether they have the same inventory as States. It seems those store owners haven't realized how important those clamps would be in PE!

Thanks again, Marty.

Marty5379

Well brethren, though I have not had a marathon posting this week (because unlike JP some of us are not retired and have to work not just for a big dick, but for food, clothing, and shelter) but I am still banging this routine. There was an exception this week. I took an unplanned 3 day rest because of work hours. So what happened tonight?

Tonight, after a 3 day break, I was wondering what type results I would get from the routine described in this thread. Would girth loss be noticeable? Would stretched length be shorter? Would the penimaster still need to have those threaded rods run out all the way? Now I am a believer in breaks, especially as it concerns girth. Extended breaks have been taken in unplanned ways (due to work), but short breaks have been more frequent and planned. So what were the results of tonight's engagement following a three day lay off?

Well, I wanted to make certain that what ever I discovered, that that evidence was factual, true, uncontested. So I went to the penimater box and grabbed a brand new strap. I wanted to make sure there was no give in the strap when I put on the PM. Then I did my helicopter spins, heated, and clamped. To my suprise, during my first clamping session I blew Dick Cheney up to a girth that usually takes 2 -3 clamp sessions! I was simply amazed! This confirmed what wannabe10 and I have discussed in PMs regarding clamping and rest. Rest may be an important ingredient to girth gains. Back to the test ... I completed 4 clamping sessions along with spins, stretching, and heat. Same as described in this thread. Then the real test: Would the PM be tighter? I put on the brand new strap, installed the PM, and to my suprise once again I was still as limber and elastic as before the break! Even with the new strap I am running the threaded rod out to near max extension. I'd like to believe that I, in fact, may even have a very slightly longer flacid stretch since pre-break routines involved the use of a strap that is as limber as they get before breaking (even with the extra velcro strap I realized there was still some give in the old strap).

In the end I was clamping off at a very solid 6 inch girth. The penimaster, with the new strong strap, was extended to near max. So the rest did not cause any lose whatsoever! In fact, all indications are that rest allowed girth to heal in its expanded state.

As I say often, this is just an observation of my Dick Cheney. Yours may respond differently, but you'll never know until you try. I guess the point I want to emphsize is that give the girth work a consistent rest. Unlike lig and other things that are stretched, girth tissues seem to respond more positively to rest.

10

Marty:

I love your posts!! I'm a firm believer in adequate rest and in fact have implemented a rest day in between girth days. I haven't clamped in a few days as I am still trying to locate my "spot" that minimizes flow back. The last time I clamped, I kept a warm washcloth on the part of my shaft that was above the clamp and wristband. Things are working for me, a little slower than some and a little quicker than others, but one thing remains clear: I believe in PE, I believe in a rest day in between girth days (except for stretching and the peni-master) AND most important, I BELIEVE that I will one day possess a 9x7 inch monster dick!!!

I decided to implement the rest day to see if that would help spark more girth growth (stuck at 5 1/8 midshaft-very pitiful!). At this juncture, you, Dogg and JP are my inspirations!!

JonPop

Patiance my brother. 5 1/8" is not pitiful. Starting with 4", now that was pitiful. Stick with us 10, we will drag you to the land of "Big Dicks". Sending a few women your way to make you feel better. JP

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I guess 5 1/8 isn't pitiful if I consider what my dick looked like before I started this. I have to remember to give myself credit for what I have done in 6 months' time, which in and of itself is miraculous!!

Oh, and thanks for the ladies!! Could use a little taste of pussy ;)

Marty5379

Just finished the routine of this thread and sitting here with Dick Cheney strapped in the Penimaster. Results? Even better!

Tonight with my first clamp session I began where I used to end after 2 -3 clamp sessions!!!!! I took an (unclamped) erect measurement of the girth and ... I wanna say I've pushed another 1/8 of an inch, but will not say I have until I get a few good measurements during my next girth break. With the second and third sessions I was very close to or right at 6 inches of girth. I ended the fourth banging 6 inches of girth.

But it was the first session that made me realize that something positive has taken place. I have never started (that I remember) at the girth I began with tonight. In fact, with sessions 2 and 3 I did not get a good expansion. I was moving the clamps around to spread the pressure evenly and those two sessions just did not result in max expansion. But still I was larger than at the same sessions prior to the girth break.

Now I am sitting here with all tissues broken to pieces, pulling and tugging them and keeping them stretched to max with the Penimaster. I can only wonder where this is going to take me by this summer!

JonPop

It's going to take you right to the Betterman mansion in Hawaii, for that "Summer Seminar" on girth you promised us. Congrats Marty...
All of a sudden after many, many months of expermentation, dedication, hard work and perserveriance, there it is....and it's yours to keep. JP

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10

Gentleman, this is what it's all about. Agreed??

JonPop

This is a wonderful thread by Marty5379, that I am bumping for all to read, again. This should re-spark interest in clamping.

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Marty5379

My goodness. Times have changed because I surely don't have enough time to write this much anymore! Thanks for the bump, JP. And, for what it's worth, I continue to believe in the principles of the routine described in this thread. Though I don't do regular PEing anymore (wife and I are happy with current size), when I get a wild hair I always fall back to what is described here. It's quick and effective. It's actually a routine I engage in when the wife and I have a pre-planned get away full of pornographic sex. Got to bring a big stick to the porn show

10

Oh Marty, you and the wife engaging in pornographic activity????? Oh, the humanity of it all................

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jennifer

Hey Marty, can I get a copy? I have never seen any home porno movies!!

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Marty5379

We're looking to have a FFM threesome, specifically with a west coast girl with a nice ass. I'll send you an application