Marty5379

Throughout the day I stretch and do helicopter spins. Every time I piss. While at home, every time there is an empty room, a free hand, and a Dick Cheney, I stretch. I believe that in so doing I am weakening the tissues in Dick Cheney. By night fall those very tissues are ready to be attacked and manipulated.

Such was the case today. I sat down and went through my manual stretching routine, the same simple routine I perform with each piss and other times. Next I did a 12 minute clamping routine (after heating). Clamped girth blew up to just a tad over 5 3/4 inches. Next I heated, stretched again, then back to the 12 minute clamp. Clamped girth went up to just about 5 7/8 inches. I did this four times. The fourth time my girth was up to just under 6 inches.

Now this alone shows a gradual weakening of the tissues as my routine proceeded. In fact, I usually stop at three clamping sessions. However, I kept noticing an increase in girth. I was curious as to if expansion would continue with a fourth session. The answer is yes it did.

Next, I installed the penimaster. In its present set up it is very difficult to install the PM. With the present rod combination it is about the length of my stretched Dick Cheney. But on this night Dick laid in the PM with ease. I had to run the threaded rod out another 1/2 inch!

My point in this post is to suggest to all panimaster users a routine similar to mine. Especially do I suggest all day stretching. After all the tissues in Dick have been stretched length wise and width wise, it is at that time that I believe the PM can be most effective. With Dick in such shape, the PM can be used to hold him in that broken/stretched condition for ever how long you are safely able to wear it.

I hope this all makes some sense. I have been conducting this experiment and my once hypothesis is becoming a fact with my Dick Cheney. Weaken your Dick like you would a rubber band. Then, in that weakened state, stretch him out and hold it using the PM.

To further prove what I am suggesting, go all day without touching Dick Cheney. At the end of the day install the PM. Pay attention to the tightness of the fit. On the next day perform the stretches mentioned above and then install the PM that night. Take note of the tightness of the fit. I think you will find that over time the manual stretching complements what the PM is designed to do.

OceanOne

Thanks Marty for your advice. I'm going to be starting your stretching throughout entire day today. I've checked the threads looking for one that specifically tells what and how to do clamping. Can you give me some insight into this?

As of now, for my focused 'girth days' I am using PM in morning, will do stretching during day, come home in evening do JPs routine, 30 440's, 150 V jelq, 150 wet jelq, then 30 minutes of PJ, then I'll put on PM for an hour. What do you think of this? Too much? I've been doing PE for 6.5 months now.

Thanks in advance.

-oceanone

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Marty:

I'm kind of like some info. on clamping myself chief. What device would you recommend? I'm assuming clamping is designed to provide a tigher Uli grip than manually with your hand? I've noticed that when I'm fully erect and attempt a Uli, it's getting increasingly harder for me to apply the type of pressure necessary with my bare hand. Guess that's a good thing!

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Oceanone:

Your girth routine does look good. However, you may want to back off on the number of 440's you're doing. It looks as though you're doing over 300 manual wet jelqs, plus 30 minutes of PJ which would probably equate to an additional 100 jelqs plus the 30 440's? That may be a bit too much. You don't want to over work your dick. Just food for thought as it happened to me a while back and I had to modify my routine.

sikdogg

Even if you don't stretch all day as Marty suggests, you should always do an intense manual stretch routine or hanging routine before you put on the PM. It just makes the most sense. I've always advocated wearing the PM after hanging.

Marty5379

The clamps I use can be seen here Cable Clamps . Wal-Mart sells a pack of different sizes. Most people say they use the red or orange clamps. I use two clamps. I get a much better Uli this way. Also you will need something to wrap around the base of Dick. I use a wrist sweat band, just like a tennis player would wear. Fits perfect and is thick. My clamps are wrapped with a couple layers of thera-band. This provides protection and cushion from the hardness of the clamp itself.

The method of clamping is simple. Warm up with heating pad. I get an erection, put on the wrist/sweat band, install a clamp as close to the base as possible and clamp snug. Kegel until it is fat. At the same time I click the clamp a little tighter in combination with the Kegels. Once the clamp is tight, I put on a second clamp above the first and clamp until there is full expansion. I leave these on for 12 minutes. Usually 3 sets, but, as last night, sometimes more.

You will need to experiment with the clamps. Sometimes you can clamp and the back flow of blood not be stopped and you lose the Uli. If this happens, rotate the clamp around a bit and try again. When you find that sweet spot, make a note and clamp in that area each time.

Once you become conditioned you can add in a little tug. What I mean is that once all is well, I grab the clamp underneath and pull upward and get an awesome Uli and tug on the ligs.

I heat and stretch in between each session. I end with the Penimaster. Caution: Clamping is very dangerous. Newbies stay away. Veterans who have not clamped or done Ulis in the recent past, condition the pecker for this. It is very intense!

This morning I woke up with a long fat dick. Last night's session was very positive!

10

Thanks Marty. I'm off to Target in a few minutes here so I'll see what types of clamps they have.

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A funny thought: I wonder what these companies would think if they knew we were using their items to assist us in enlarging our "tools". Pun intended hehehe

sikdogg

If you're really interested in clamping or constrictor exercizes i can send you a copy of a pdf file that Redzulu/Wants9 created for people who are interested in girth work. Red is the grand daddy of contricting and was the first person to advocate clamping. Red was actually dismissed and banned from alot of boards in the past for advocating clamping which was considered "too dangerous." He also has a small message board that is dedicated exclusively to clamping. I know Red and most of the bros on his board. PM me with your e-mail address if you're interested in the file.

I would post the link to Red's board but i'm not sure if that's allowed...

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I'll send you a PM dogg. I've just noticed that lately when I try to Uli, it's getting harder to apply the kind of pressure I want to apply (especially after I kegal) as my base is getting really thick. Guess that's a good sign eh?

OceanOne

Thanks for you alls(10, Marty, Sik) help. Sik I sent you a PM with my email.

sikdogg

You've got mail...

OceanOne

Thanks again sikdogg.

Marty5379

Brethren,

I do not possess the words to sell this methodology to you. I've been doing this long enough to see through a lot of the bullshit. Now and then we all get on a brief high over something that seemed to push the growth button. I have done this. Consequently, I try to ride things out a while before tooting my horn.

I've been on the above routine for months now. After the newbie gains things slowed for me. I have worked my ass off for the rest. But the above routine has jumped started my Dick Cheney. Listen, before taking a shower today I decided to do some wet jelqs. After gaining a full erection I could not believe what I was holding in my hand.

All day today Dick Cheney has been heavy/fat and longer than normal in the flaccid state. I mean the fatness has been solid and thick. After getting the above erection I have no doubt that I was looking at a longer and fatter Dick Cheney. There simply is no doubt!!!! I had no ruler in the bathroom, but tomorrow night I plan to take a measurement (providing I get home in time and am still full of energy). The girth was certainly there. I can circle my index to thumb on 5.5 girth. In the bathroom today those two fingers would not touch. There was a fat boy in my hand. I looked in the mirror and could not believe how defined and fat Dick was today. This was prior to jelqing.

And to boot, Mrs. 5379 was wanting some head board banging sex. After a 30 minute eating and sucking session, she jumped up on me. When Dick Cheney went into the Oval Office, there was a gasp like never before. She was riding Dick like the stallion I believe him to be. I could feel the tightness. When I stabbed her deep, she let out a sigh that should be on everyone's mp3 player. Then to out do all up to that point, she started moaning so loud I know the kids heard her. Then she screamed, "Oh God!" Now Mrs. 5379 only makes reference to God when it is something on the scale of creation. In other words, it was a new thing, the beginning of a level of orgasm she had not known till tonight.

Brethren, if you see fit, try the methods discussed in this thread. Take time to weaken Dick Cheney throughout the day. Incorporate heat and clamping at the end of the day. Conclude with as much time in the penimaster as you can manage. In all, be careful! Be cautious! Be smart! Make sure you know the dangers! Condition Dick Cheney before the marathon. And in the end, GROW!!

sikdogg

Marty, you sure have a way with words...

Isn't it awesome when your woman can appreciate your hard earned efforts??

Überschwanz

A double entendre sikdogg?

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That's what it's all about eh 5379??? Congrats on the "fat boy" (no reference to HD) and the phenomenal sex you undoubtedly had ;)

Gb76

I've had a really hard time on girth part after the newbie gains with the newbie routine. Now almost half year past since the beginning of PE, I have had not succeeded in achieving my short-term goal on girth. It is even getting "smaller", along with the length gain. I'd definitely try the clamp thing.

Dogg, please send me the pdf file with the email address I've sent to your PM. Thanks in advance.

Btw, Congratulation to Marty on your recent gains.

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Gb76:

Don't give up bro. Have you considered taking a "break" from PE? Since you've been doing this about as long as I have, you might want to consider a recharge for your cock. It might help!!

youngfacehov

Hmmmm...very interesting. You might have discovered a new P device lol. I'm going to go see where I can get them cable clamps.

Marty5379

Ok, last night I measured 6 1/8 clamped girth. Record for me! A long time ago I posted in my progress report that I measured a 6 inch girth during a workout. I later learned that my measuring technique was somewhat flawed. After the discovery I corrected the errors. So what this meant was that I had never previously measured 6 inches of clamped girth. Probably back then it was nearer 5.75 clamped.

Now back to last night ... when I hit 6 inches clamped girth I almost jumped out of my seat. During the next and last session I hit 6 1/8 erect girth. Now this is important because the trend for me has been to be able to clamp the girth up about 1/4 -3/8 inch larger than my normal erect girth. Using PE math last night shows that expansion has taken place once again. If the past holds true, that is. So what have I done?

In addition to all the above info in this thread I want to add a new twist that I've been doing lately. I do JP's helicopter spins as he described them by grabbing the shaft at the base. After this, I pull the shaft out as far as possible with one hand and I wrap the other hand around the shaft. This puts the top of my grip just under the circumcision scare. Then I do helicopter spins. What this does is attack the midshaft area. It is in this area (around the circumcision scare) that I take all girth measurements. It is in this area that I measured 6 1/8 inches of clamped girth.

Now as for length, I measured my clamped length and noticed just about a 1/4 inch increase.

Now some will say this is bla, bla, bla because they are measurements taken while in a clamped state. I would understand the speculation on your part. However, for just about the entire time of my PE career I have taken measurements during a routine. Whatever I measure at that time is the actual size of my dick. What I measure at that time simply shows me what I am capable of achieving. This has always held true in my case. I believe that what we see during and after a routine is what we can be if we ever cement it and/or work dick until he stays in that state.

Of course, after all this I install the penimaster. I am beginning to believe that not only does this maximize the effectiveness of the PM, but the PM also helps me to avoid negative side effects of clamping (this is a topic for another day).

In all, I am excited! Nothing like seeing results!

Überschwanz

That's wonderful Marty. You just go use that girth to spread Mrs.5379 open like a Thanksgiving turkey, you hear?

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A Thanksgiving turkey Uber??? That's pretty comical, if not a terrific mental image hehehe.

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Marty:

I hear what you're saying and completely understand the logic behind it. Keep it up guy! (pun definitely intended)

Gb76

To Dogg: I got it. Thanks man.

To 10: I want to take a break after I hit the short-term goal, 1/2 inch in girth. As long as I get there, I'll take at least 2 weeks break. Right now I just can't. Man, I'm sure you'd understand me.

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Gb76:

I understand perfectly bro. Back in January when I was having some problems, I was advised to take some time off and while I started to, I couldn't finish.

This time, I was ready. Granted, I don't know that I'll stick to a full week and a half as I don't think my dick needs that much rest. But, if I choose to come back this coming Monday, it will have been a good 5 days off. Since having taken time off, my boners have been more forthcoming and easier to obtain. And, they last for quite a while. Good luck though however you choose to go.

Gb76

OK. another stupid/naive question, after I read the full course of "clamping", and checked a couple of supermaket/hardware stores, I had no luck to find the goodie.

Can somebody shed some lights on me? name, brand,...?

May the God of PE bless you.

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Gb76:

Ironically, I had the same exact problem. I don't know if you have these in Canada, but try Home Depot. I believe Dogg told me they carry them there and they're about 2 bones a piece.

Marty5379

Click here for a picture of the cable clamps. The red or orange ones will work best unless you have a horse dick. Need some theraband or other cushion type material to wrap around the clamps to keep from cutting into your skin. Also, may want to pick up a wrist sweat band to place around your shaft. This will add more comfort when you install the clamp. Wal-Mart sells the clamps in packs in their hardware department. They are all over the web for ordering as well.

JustaV6

Marty, I could not agree more with you!! I try and weaken my tool in a similar fashion all day.


Congradulations on finding what works for ya and achieving AMAZING results, to be proud of!!

My Question to you Marty is; Are you doing Uli's for the 12 minute cycles, or just reading the paper, please confirm??

To compare notes, I can't kegel so I use a Penis pump and place a cock restricter ring on the base of my dick. Instead of Uli's I proceed with 5 minutes of jelqing with device in the up and down directions. You mentioned intensity, and the dangers to newbies, I can't stress enough the dangers and only a VERY well conditioned dick may take a jelq workout like this.

But the gains are crazy... end of January I was starting to see 7" EG and cemented it the start of week 2 in Feb. My finger to thumb stopped touching, when grasping my erection mid-Feb.

note: I only do this of a total of 10 minutes for the entire week(4 workouts), and I pump my dick to approximately 75-85% erect then ring gets slipped on the base.

Marty, Thank you for providing such entertaining, insightfull, knowledgeble theads!!!
thx
JustaV6

Marty5379

I continue to be impressed with the principles of the routine laid out in this thread. For instance, helicopter spins are making the head of Dick Cheney black and blue. He is so stretched that when I twirl him around his head hits my thigh. Good problem! Earlier I said my stretched length had surpassed 8 inches. The news gets better ...

Tonight I sit here after doing the routine of this thread, wearing my penimaster and the set up I have worn for many months now is too short! Yes, I have the threaded rod run out to the max. In other words, time to change to longer rods!

Another tip for penimaster users is this: Before installing the PM, do helicopter spins. The spins will engorge the shaft and the head making the PM fit snug and reducing slippage. Too, the spins loosen the shaft giving you maximum effectiveness for stretching and holding that stretched length while wearing the PM.

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I just started doing these "helicopter spins" and I have to say, there is method to the madness. When I hang, I can get a better hang/stretch. My overall flaccid hang seems to be improving and the size of my erection is getting longer and thicker. I realize I've only been doing them a very short time but I can already see the benefits. Now, if I can just figure out that damn pm I bought!!

sikdogg

The only issue i see with this is that strapping your penis while somewhat engorged isn't the safest thing to do. This can create alot of internal pressure in the glans. I always squeeze out the blood from my penis before attaching any device to it whether it's my PM or hanger. Just a thought...

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Dogg:

Do you squeeze the blood out of the entire shaft or just the glans??

sikdogg

Just the glans or any portion of my penis that extends beyond the constriction.