Older or Younger Women - Page 4

Loki · 03-23-2007, 06:07 AM

Nice post there Falcon,
14 women in 4 months

You Sir are a Dowwwwwwwwwwwwwg

My frickin God, my best times I didn't do that good, didn't do bad, but nothing like that.

Now Falcon, answer this one, how many times have you been stawked by a women that didn't deal well with rejection? If you say never, I'd say you have been very lucky.

Was you ever shy when it came to asking a lady out or to just walk up and talk to them? If you was, how did you overcome it? I think that is a major problem for many people and any advice you could offer would be a great help for some of our single friends here. Some people have to use booze to get the balls to do it, but there is a very good chance the booze idea can backfire and send the wrong message.

10 · 03-24-2007, 05:09 AM

Falcon, I just your last post and I must admit, you and I think alike. Although I've never heard it phrased that your interviewing her for the position, that's a FANTASTIC way of looking at it.

I'm going to go out on a limb here. I'm 36 and have been with 1...........count it ONE woman my entire life and she happens to be my ex wife and mother of my two children. Don't get me wrong, I have dated others but I've only ever had sex with one woman my entire life. Now, I know some of you are thinking "what in the fuck man.......ONE woman your whole life.......what are you nuts???". No, I'm picky......VERY picky.

I don't have time for women who don't measure up to my standards. The way I see it, whoever ends up with me should thank her lucky stars and count her blessings that she FOUND me, not the other way around. This doesn't mean I don't want to date and be a man whore for a while........being a freakin' "goodie good" gets really old after some time. REALLY OLD! But, that doesn't mean I don't have my standards.

Now I've tried your advice here Falcon.........you know, get her name, get her number, etc........I tried this with 4 different women some time ago and each of the 4 of them was a complete loser. Didn't look like it on the outside but they never called back and each of them I came to find out had their own separate issues. I realize your not supposed to throw in the towel with shit like this but I think in many cases, I have. I got tired of constantly going for women who were fit, trim, had a seemingly great personality only to have them play mind games and shit and not return phone calls. I'm simply not into any of that crap.......don't have time for it. I call once and if they don't have the decency to return the phone call, they're done.

I'm really hopeful and confident that I'll find one one day that'll really rock my world. I'm still working on that single mom that lives behind me................

In any event, just wanted to say Falcon that I thoroughly related to your post and I completely agree with your ideas on the subject.

Falcon · 03-24-2007, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Loki

Nice post there Falcon,
14 women in 4 months

You Sir are a Dowwwwwwwwwwwwwg

My frickin God, my best times I didn't do that good, didn't do bad, but nothing like that.

Now Falcon, answer this one, how many times have you been stawked by a women that didn't deal well with rejection? If you say never, I'd say you have been very lucky.

Was you ever shy when it came to asking a lady out or to just walk up and talk to them? If you was, how did you overcome it? I think that is a major problem for many people and any advice you could offer would be a great help for some of our single friends here. Some people have to use booze to get the balls to do it, but there is a very good chance the booze idea can backfire and send the wrong message.

Hey Loki,
I've been stalked by a couple of women. It's really kind of scary and gives a birds eye view of what many woman have to put up with when a male doesn't get the hint.
Most damaging though is when you tell too much to a woman, dump her and she goes on the war path with a mission to destroy your character in the community. That's also happened a few times. One of those times took me 2 years to repair the damage she caused. These days I only tell a woman what I want the whole world to know otherwise I keep my mouth shut.

As far as shy goes, I'm probably the worst of the worst. I just can't walk up to a woman and start a conversation. I still can't. I even tried the booze thing but byt the time I got the courage I was flying on two wings, if you know what I mean. However, due to the activities I'm involved with - Dancing, Yoga and other hobbies women enjoy it makes it easy for me to walk up, do the name exchange thing as I described and then start talking about our mutual hobby. It allows you to get close in a relaxed safe environment. Really works for me.

Falcon

Falcon · 03-24-2007, 07:14 AM

10,

I don't think anything is weird about your selectivity. My goal in dating is not to get in bed. The mission, now get this guys, the mission is to weed out the unacceptable as quickly as possible so that I can work with the ones that are worthy of my presence.
After I get the woman's number I wait 5 to 9 days to call. When I call I only call on the days Sunday through Thursday. I'm always to busy on Fridays and Saturdays (in reality that's what I want the lady to think). What I want is for the lady to think I'm different than all the other guys she gave her number to. Most guys will call the next day or the day after. I want her to be thinking of me which raises her interest level.
When I call I use a calling card, pay phone or any other method that does not show her who is calling. I call 2 or 3 times a day for 3 days. If she never answers the phone she is a screener and I dump her number. I never, ever leave a message.
Here's some very important ammunition guys. Men use the telephone to communicate. Men leave messages to communicate. Women use the telephone to screen men out. It is one of their most powerful tools in the dating game. That's why I don't leave messages. It takes one of her tools away and puts the ball in my court. The last thing I want is to be left hanging in the wind. Did she get my message? When will she call? Should I leave another message? The list goes on and it doesn't feel good to be in that position. We have all been there. So, never leave messages.

THE INITIAL PHONE CALL

Ok, so you call and she actually answers the phone. Listed below are the different scenarios you will encounter. I promise you, there won’t be any more than what I list below:

1. You call, say, "Hi this is Falcon". She says "Falcon who?” What you do next is say "Sorry, I must have the wrong number" and hang up. Reason for this is if she really was interested in you she would not have forgotten you in 5 to 9 days. She got you confused with the 10 other guys she gave her number to. Another reason is she is really mad at you for not calling sooner. This is good because she just weeded herself out. Who wants a controlling woman around them eh?
2. You call, say “Hi, this is Falcon”. She says “Falcon, I don’t like game players and when I give a man my number I want him to call right away!” then she hangs up. Praise the Lord Man! You have just been saved! That there gentlemen is one controlling woman. Thank god she weeded herself and saved you months/years of grief.
3. You call, say "Hi this is Falcon". She says "Hi Falcon, how are you?". This is a good sign because she remembered you and has been thinking about you.
4. You call, say "Hi this is Falcon". She says "Hi Falcon! I was wondering when you would call!". Dude your in! Not only has she been thinking about you but her interest level has been increasing day-by-day wondering when you would call her.

ASKING FOR THE FIRST DATE

All right, assuming you got a number 3 or 4 above it’s time to ask for the initial date (her initial interview). The deal here is the first date is going to be a coffee date, even if you have talked to her before seen her around, work with her, have been in class with her and so on. Reason for this is you want to get to know her quickly (through some polite talk and questions) without spending a ton of money or worse, ending up on a 4 hour date with a nut case or?
When you ask for the initial coffee date it will always be the days Sunday through Thursday. You are always too busy Friday and Saturday.

After a little polite small talk you ask the million-dollar question. You don’t have to say it exactly the way I write it but the idea behind it is you tell her you want to meet her and can she make it. Never say “Would you like to? or If you aren’t too busy? and other wimpy statements. Here’s how I say it.

I say, “Mary, I want to meet you at Starbucks Tuesday at 6pm for a brief moment over coffee and get to know you a little better. Can you make it?” Then shut up.

Here are the scenarios you will encounter:

1. She says “No, I’m too busy for the next 10 weeks but give me a call in October” What! This girl is so busy she can’t take one hour out of her life to meet you? Tell her “Hey, that’s fine, let’s get together when your schedule is a little more packed” Wish her a nice day and hang up… trash the number.
2. She says “No, I can’t make it Tuesday” and doesn’t come back with a counter offer like “No, I can’t make it Tuesday but I can make it Wednesday”. If that is the case say “That’s fine Mary, keep in touch and have a great day” hang up and then trash her number. She has no interest in you.
3. She says, “Yes, I would like to meet you but my grandmother from Peru is flying in the day before, my father is in the hospital and he may need me, my dog may need a kidney transplant” (the list goes on an on) so give me a call the day before or the day of the coffee date to see if I can make it”. This lady just isn’t interested and can’t say no to you. Tell her “Hey Mary, hope things go well, keep in touch, bye bye”, hang up and then trash her number.
4. She says, “Yes, I can make it but call me the day of or the day before the coffee date to confirm/remind me”. This is called a definite maybe date. I promise you she will not be available when you call. This woman just can’t say no or she wants you to be her personal secretary. Tell her “Mary, I’m confirming now”. If she persists then say “Mary, let’s make it for some other time. Keep in touch and have a great day” then trash her number.
5. She says, “No, I can’t make it Tuesday but I can make it at 1pm on Saturday!” Tell her you are busy, wish her a nice day, hang up and call her 5 to 9 days later to ask for another weekday date. You are always busy on Fridays and Saturdays. So busy in fact you don’t call nor return phone calls on those days.
6. She says, “No, I can’t make it Tuesday but I can make it at 5pm on Wednesday!” Dude, she has interest and just gave you a counter offer. Take the offer!
7. She says, “Yes, I can make it!” You are in and the sun is shining!

Once she accepts the date, chat for a minute or so, wish her a nice day and say “See you Thursday”. Do not call her before the date. Ever. The reason is you want see her face to face when you talk and gage her reactions to you. Besides, if you say it all on the phone what will be left to talk about when you meet?

Now here are some red flags guys. After she accepts the date and then says “Give me your telephone number in case something comes up” something will probably come up. I suggest you double up on your schedule in case she calls and cancels which will happen more than 50% of the time. That way you have your bases covered.
If she calls you before the date to chat on the phone keep it down to one or two minutes and always be the first to end the conversation. Remember, you are saving all the talk until she is right in front of you so you can see how she reacts to you. Something you can’t do when on the telephone.

There you go. Way more than you may have wanted to know but this is my method and it kicks major ass. It’s really a numbers game. You have meet a lot of ladies and I mean a lot of ladies to find one that is acceptable, one you really like, one that will treat you well.

Falcon

10 · 03-24-2007, 02:35 PM

Wow.............just wow...........

Betterman · 03-25-2007, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 10

I'm really hopeful and confident that I'll find one one day that'll really rock my world. I'm still working on that single mom that lives behind me.

Being single is hard work. If you're wanting to find someone. You really have to "broadcast" yourself in public places frequently. This can become very time consuming and tiring. After all, it's basically, Go Go Go.

May you find your Soul Mate soon. Because, once you do. You stuggle to make up the years you've been apart.

Betterman · 03-25-2007, 02:31 AM

I may also add, that every individual will have idiosyncrasy's in one form or another. Just be sure that the bar is not set too high, or you may pass your Soul Mate bye.

JonPop · 03-25-2007, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Betterman

I may also add, that every individual will have idiosyncrasy's in one form or another. Just be sure that the bar is not set too high, or you may pass your Soul Mate bye.

That was pretty profound Betterman and quite true.

happy stud · 03-25-2007, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Betterman

I may also add, that every individual will have idiosyncrasy's in one form or another. Just be sure that the bar is not set too high, or you may pass your Soul Mate bye.

Thats why its good to set the bar low so you can have plenty of pussy.

Betterman · 03-25-2007, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by happy stud

Thats why its good to set the bar low so you can have plenty of pussy.

Someone can have alot of pussy. It doesn't mean it's Good Pussy!

Falcon · 03-25-2007, 05:13 AM

Good stuff,

I agree with the bar level thing. Something that I might put up with might drive another guy crazy. Just so long as what I have to put up with doesn't mess my world it's ok. But what I'm finding is when I put this thing on autopiolt it does all the work for me. All I have to do is get numbers and pull the handle!

Falcon

Betterman · 03-25-2007, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Falcon

Good stuff,

I agree with the bar level thing. Something that I might put up with might drive another guy crazy. Just so long as what I have to put up with doesn't mess my world it's ok. But what I'm finding is when I put this thing on autopiolt it does all the work for me. All I have to do is get numbers and pull the handle!

Falcon

I feel it's not so much a gamble. It's more of timing. You need to be at the right place at the right time. It's not fate it's choices made by both individuals. That coincides with each choice made.

WOW !!! I need a drink !!!!

This would equal Soul Mate.

Hopefully, this indivdual wouldn't be judged too harshly.

Falcon · 03-25-2007, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Betterman

I feel it's not so much a gamble. It's more of timing. You need to be at the right place at the right time. It's not fate it's choices made by both individuals. That coincides with each choice made.
WOW !!! I need a drink !!!!
This would equal Soul Mate.

Hopefully, this indivdual wouldn't be judged too harshly.

Not to worry Betterman,

It's simply a numbers game. Interview enough ladies and the world will be yours.
Here's something to reflect on..... When I go in public at times I am sitting with 2 or 3 (haven't made it to four yet) women that have dated me and they all enjoy my my company but it wasn't in the cards. The thing you guys have to remember is I don't date to get laid. I date to find Ms. Right. Therefore I am always the gentleman and they simply love the fact that I act like a man and don't give up the dick that easy.
These women, like the fact that I find them attractive but will not go the next step even though we have great times during our dates. Fact is, If she isn't the one I don't persue her. Period
Betterman, life doesn't get any better than that.
Due the fact that women love my company because I act like a man, the NewBee ladies come in like a swarm of locusts in the holicast to find out what kind of man attracts all these Queen Bees.
Here is a statement that will rock your world. Women compete more than men. They will walk up and try to pick you up right in front of the lady you are with while each other acts like there is nothing going on.

Falcon

happy stud · 03-25-2007, 12:38 PM

I agree with you Falcon. Dont let the woman have any kind of control over your ass or its all over. Everything you wrote can also apply to just casually going out to just get some pussy. I aint interested in settling down right now. I just want to have some fun. But your right if they think they can control you or want to control you then go to the next woman because none of em have a pussy thats so good that you should have to put up with all that shit.

10 · 03-25-2007, 03:04 PM

My bar is set high for a reason..........I will not tolerate bringing home another one like I did the first time. I look at it this way, I'm 36 years old. My first go round with marriage sucked ass. She wasn't right for me and I her and that relationship cost me a total of 12 years. Granted, I got two beautiful daughters out of it so it wasn't a total waste BUT, I feel at times I have to play "catch up" to where I should be at this stage of my life.

Truth is, I never gave myself the opportunity to be a single, carefree bachelor free to date whomever I choose to. I don't want to settle down again for a looooooong time, if ever. I like my freedom and the ability to date whom I choose so long as she's a quality woman and not some gutter skank I stumbled upon while on a trip to Target.

Yes, my bar is set high and I actually am willing to compromise on a few items if I find one that's deserving of having me. But after being married to someone who never respected you as a man, treated you like you were a child and was never, ever satisfied with anything you did, it makes it hard for me to lower my bar when I refuse to ever tolerate that bullshit ever again. Does this make sense? I guess I'd rather spend the rest of my life alone and live a peaceful life on my terms than get with a woman, just for the sake of having one, that treats me like shit and doesn't have anything herself to bring to the table but yet wants to bitch about what I don't have to offer. Again, I hope this makes sense.

JonPop · 03-25-2007, 03:47 PM

Makes perfect sense 10. I was so lucky that I got it right the first time around.

Falcon · 03-28-2007, 04:35 AM

10, Happy_Stud,

I like what you write. Everything is absolutely correct.

Now I will make a statement:

In any kind of relationship, romance, friend, business, meeting a person on the street......

In any kind of relationship you must bottom line the other persons actions. If they are acceptable then they can stick around. If not, then I curb their ass forever. There is no going back, that is unless it a guaranteed deal, in writing, attorney approved, bonified contract.

Ok, what the fuck, I thought this was a Poll on who likes older or younger women! Damn........

Falcon