jennifer

Hi 2cents:

That was an excellent post! If you guys feel that doing these exercises will give you additional confidence or raise your level of self-esteem, then by all means, go for it!

My main point that I have made a few times, is a woman isn't going to make your penis size her number one priority in a serious relationship. Would we like your penis to be a certain size or thickness, well, yes, but if we really care for you, we will accept you as you are.

No, I have not polled every woman in America, but I know enough females who are more concerned about how you are going to treat them than they are the size of your penis.

So, keep doing these exercises if it makes you feel better about yourself, but just remember we aren't obsessing over this penis debate.

Jennifer

jennifer

Hi Happy Stud:

There is no magical size that we females are looking for in a man's penis. Every woman is different. Please read my other comments in this thread again.

Also, I hate to inform you of this, but it doesn't matter how long or short or thin or fat your penis is, if we females get very angry at you. We can say very mean and cruel things about your penis regardless.

When we females get very upset with you guys, we know we cannot win in a physical confrontation. So, we "level the playing field". We use our mouths. No, not as in blowjobs, but as in saying mean and vicious things to you.

We know that most guys are very sensitive about their penis and their performance in bed. So guess what? That's where we are going to attack you.

Do we really mean what we say? Most of the time not. But when you hurt us very badly, we will become very emotional and strike back at you like this.

Should we resort to this type of behavior? Most of the time, no. But, because we females can be so highly emotional, you need to be aware that this what we do. Sorry, but you guys need to learn that this is how we behave and how we deal with our emotions.

Jennifer

GRX

One of you ladies should have informed Lorena Bobbit...

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virgin mary

Hello Everyone:

My husband is already a member here and he asked me if I would join. I have read all the articles in this catagory.

I do not agree with everything that Jennifer and Lisa have said but I do agree with a great deal of it. I think they are right when they say that women aren't that obsessed with your penis size. But some of the men here just do not want to accept that. It's the truth. There's much more than that besides wanting a huge dick.

I somewhat disagree with Jennifer in that I understand what she's saying about a thicker penis feeling better. I think a whole lot of women would agree to that. But they would also like it longer too. Given an either or choice I think she's right most women would pick a thicker penis over a longer one.

I got lost on the Bible lessons that some of the men were giving to each other so let's skip that.

All in all though we are not just here for your sexual pleasure and I think that is what Jennifer was saying too.

I hope I haven't offended anyone.

Mary

sikdogg

That is such a load of crap... women want guys to play nice and consider their feelings and what not, but can't do the same for us?? ...and what is this load of crap???
why don't you women learn to keep their emotions in check like you expect of guys... that's just a cop-out of an excuse... so in that vein, when we get upset and tell you tha your legs are too fat or you ass is sagging, you should just learn to accept that when we get mad we lash out also.

SonicCelt

Yay dogg!! I think life is too short for these mental midget head games that some of these gals like to play in order to get control or manipulate. I have never had a fight with any of my girlfriends past or present as much as they have goaded and tried and I'll tell you something...there is no better way to piss a female off than to not acknowledge the irrationalism. I have told many to take a walk just because of that, not that I am the be all or end all but as I said life is short and my prioretys include a good quality of life mentaly, physically and of course emotionally. If a gal wants to go on like that I'm sure there is some medication that can be prescribed.

Überschwanz

Err...bad experience sikdogg?

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sikdogg

No but it's the principle of the thing...

JonPop

Yeh dogg, like that's gonna happen.

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sikdogg

Yea, i know but i had to throw it out there to make a point...

virgin mary

I think some people here don't realize that like it or not, women do act differently than men do. Men have their own ways of manipulating women, but that seems to not bother anyone. But if women do like Jennifer described you go bezerk. Hypocritical, don't you think?

GRX

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Welcome to Betterman Virign Mary! I'm glad that you feel comfortable enough to post your opinions.

ON TOPIC:
Oh man, I was trying to be cerebral... then the dogg bites the lock off his cage!

Look; men and women are different. We are built differntly and wired differently. IF you believe that God created man and woman, then you know that the two were designed to complete each other, make a joining of a man & a woman a "whole."

But if you DON'T believe that, I guess it's sabers and slingshots at 20 paces!

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sikdogg

I'm not sure if i'm being hypocritical... all i'm saying is that all we hear from women is to consider their feeling and be good which is acceptable, but when i hear comments like "if we hurt your feelings, then you'll just have to accept it cuz that's just how we are..." then i have to ask who's being hypocritica herel?? If you expect us to be considerate, then you better damn well better be the same. Fair is fair...

sikdogg

I totally understand that men and women are different, but if men are expected to temper their attitudes and actions... so should the women.

GRX

In the words of the great, wise Alfalfa... "...and how!"

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madame_zora

Wow, there's a lot here to go through. First, any woman who wants to be treated as an equal MUST act like it! It's simply not okay for us to throw hysterical hissy-fits and then wonder why we don't get respect. Viscious, intentionally degrading comments are unacceptable in any circumstance, unless he has just hit you!

Penis size is a male obsession, just like boobs. It is men who judge each other based on size because of natural male competitiveness. The vast majority of women care far less about the size of your penis than you could ever imagine. Here's the dilemma: most women (in the world, not the internet) are passive, shy, embarrassed to talk about sex, probably don't give head, certainly don't swallow- you get the picture. They're just NOT going to hang out on a sex forum and divulge their opinions! The only women you will ever hear from in a place like this are the very assertive ones who MAY actually have a preference for one size or another, that's how they found this place to begin with.

Simply put, you can't expect to get an accurate read of "what all women like" by asking only the 2% who are open enough to post on sex chatrooms. You will find an inordinate number of size queens, assertive women, brash women and the like that you will not find in the real world. Don't punish them because of me!

Vaginas come in different sizes, just like dicks. Some women know enough about themselves to know what fits best, this doesn't make her a mean woman if she wants to find someone who satisfies her both emotionally AND physically. For me, longer is more important than thicker, but once again I find I am in the minority there.

GRX

You put this very well. Your response could have helped on another forum that was having problems with the fact that a woman may want to stop seeing a guy because he didn't "measure up" during love-making.

I don't see the problem with that. I don't consider it being selfish, cruel, mean or immature unless the person is disrespectful regarding how they treat the other person.

Some guys like tall woman and don't date short women. Some guys like short women and don't date tall women. Once you get to the point of having sex and two people aren't compatible, then I don't see that as being unfair grounds for ending the relationship. If there are certain physical properties that a person is not willing to compromise regarding their mate, then I don't consider it unfair to end the relationship based on that.

It's unfortunate that sexual compatibility isn't discovered until after the relationship has started to develop deeper. Maybe we should add some additional measurements onto our driver's license other than height & weight.

What it boils down to is: if you know what you are looking for in a mate and you find out that your current girlfriend/boyfriend isn't it; then you either need to decide to compromise your requirements and work together with what you have OR respectfully end the relationship.

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jennifer

I would like to welcome madame_zora to our website!

Unfortunately, I think some members have misunderstood what I said regarding women's attitudes towards men when they are angry or hurt. I did not say I agreed or condoned their attitudes. I was simply pointing out how some women are going to act.

I quite frankly wished they did not act so emotional, but whether I like it, or anyone else likes it, that's the way some females are, indeed, going to act.

There are quite a few guys who participate in this forum who are currently unattached. The purpose of this forum is to give a woman's perspective to a variety of issues. I want them to know how some women act and the "logic" of their actions.

Madame_zora raises an excellent point that most women will not participate in these tyes of forums. She is exactly right when she says most of us who do participate are generally going to be more outgoing and aggressive than the "average" female. So, the guys who are reading these threads need to know the mindset of the "average" women, generally speaking, when they are out in the public.

We can all come up with various examples of how different everyone is and we'll therefore be discussing the same things forever.

My perspective comes from numerous conversations and observations of women since I was old enough to know what "the birds and the bees" were. You can agree or disagree all you want, but it is not going to change anything. Some women are going to be incredibly emotional. Learn to deal with it or find other women who are less emotional. Those are your choices.

My point is simply to give the guys a "woman's perspective" so that they will be aware of how and why some women act the way they do.

Jennifer

sikdogg

Sweetheart, any man that hits a woman is not a man and should have his balls cut off. If a man ever hits a woman, she has every right to put a bullet between his eyes.

There are alot of women in my life that i old dear (i have 4 sisters, a mother, a mother-in-law, 2 grandmothers, 3 sisters-in-law, a wife, and two daughters). Let me tell you that there is absolutely no reason for a man to ever strike a woman... Ever.

sikdogg

I think we see eye-to-eye on this... i think that i may have been a little hard on you for the past week. I didn't mean to attack you per se, but clear up a few comments that i didn't totally agree with. I got the sense that you were overgeneralizing and wanted clarify that your beliefs weren't necessarily that of all women. I think you're great and do truely appreciate your comments.

I hope that you don't think i'm a big jerk... at least not all the time. I still reserve the right to be a jerk some of the time...

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Some guys are sensitive about their penis' size, some not so much so. Those of us, like myself, who HAVE EXTREME SELF CONFIDENCE REGARDLESS OF SIZE, can pick up and carry on regardless of how cruel or vicious you women can be.

You know Jen, it almost sounds as though your validating "bitchy" behavior. Yeah, guys can be insensitive jerks, no question. But, to tell us that "we need to learn that this is how you women behave" is complete BS. That's like saying that once a month, you women get PMS and it's our job as men to suck up whatever emotional punishment you feel like dishing out. Sorry, not gonna happen!

10

Totally agree!!!!

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BTW Jen, even though I didn't agree with your comment above, I still think your an ok lady!!

jennifer

Hi Sikdogg and wanna10incher:

I totally agree that there is no excuse for violence. HOWEVER, as we all know from the news, there will be some people who do resort to violence, both physical and mental. I think wanna10incher gave an example of a friend of his who is in a very bad marriage but refuses to leave.

The fact is people do not act as we would want them to all the time. I am sure most people found Scott Peterson's behavior to be deplorable, however, these things happen whether we like it or not.

I was not condoning this type of behavior that SOME women possess, but merely trying to let you guys know their way of "thinking". Since I have four older brothers, I learned a long time ago how to deal with men. Unfortunately, most women do not.

They are going to sometimes act this way and I just wanted my Betterman Brothers to know what was going on. No more, no less. Personally, if I were a guy, I wouldn't give them a second chance. The first time they acted that way with me, I'd say adios.

I guess this is why I don't have many female friends. I've always related better with men.

And, finally, Sikdogg, I appreciate your compliment, but I have not been upset or angry with you at all. I think good healthy debate is what everyone needs. I don't think any of you guys are jerks. Well, maybe some of you are a little!! Ha ha.

Jen

Succubus

No You DID NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is very uncalled for for a woman to ever make fun of there spouse's genitals. As human beings we should not make them feel insecure about themselves. As a woman if Incubus told me my tits were to small,I would leave him for someone who liked mine. I have had 3 kids,I am 5'2 and weigh 104 pounds. I am still very insecure about my body. One time I said something really hurtful to my husband,and I will never ever be able to forgive myself for hurting him like that.That has alot to do with why my husband is insecure about his member. So if anyone ever thinks about saying something mean to demean there loved one, please think twice.

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JonPop

Lisa, I learned how cruel people can be when I was in the Army and got some very hurtful remarks made about my dick. (Needle Dick the Bug Fucker) I never {thank God} had a woman say anything bad about my size. But this gave me a hang up about my dick for years. I would avoid peeing at a public urnal or undressing in front of or showering with other males. When I discovered Penis enlargement, I was determined to make my dick grow so I would never face that embarresment again. All I wanted when I started doing PE, was a dick that was "normal" or so I thought. Now, after 27 months of doing the rub and tug, I'd give anything to be able to face those cruel bastards and flaunt this huge cock. So women aren't the only ones that can be hurtful.
JP

P.S. This got me into a lot of fights, even a little dick can kick ass. Hahaha

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Lisa, at 104 lbs and being 5'2'', I'd say you've got a fantastic body. Then again, I've never seen it, but the physical numbers sound fabulous. Inc is a VERY lucky man.

pleaser

I think Jen was explaining how women MIGHT become hurtful as a REACTION to themselves being hurt in some way... Not as a generally acceptable form of communication. I think that women should have a reasonable expectation that men will "play nice and consider their feelings and what not," and men also should have a reasonable expectation that women will do the same. Those are qualities that I hope to bring to a relationship, and that I look for in a partner. However, I also recognize that we are all HUMAN and fail from time to time. Hopefully infrequently, and hopefully I and my partner can forgive each other when it happens, and learn from the experience. I would not so quickly react and judge women in general because of the occasional failings of any individual person, or because of the frequent failings of a small minority of people. I would hope that women would not judge me based on some preconceived notion of "men," and I would hope that they would keep some perspective about my own failings and view them in the context of ME rather than the context of MEN. I very much try to do the same with women, or anyone for that matter.

Succubus

Well after what Andrew told me about how much you have grown you could definetly laugh at those guys. Yes men and women are both cruel. I am very sensitive about people making fun of men's penis's because that can really make someone insecure,and they never forget it. Thanks

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thething

k for some reason my penis went down in size as i got older!???? and it fluqtuates in size aswell..
mine is 6.7"lenth and 4.6" girth .. i no its not a big penis so does this mean the chick wont feel it?

JonPop

thething. First, welcome to the forum. Second, your post stands as a shining example of how not to post in this forum. PLEASE, if you want us to respond to your questions, READ the forum guidelines and post accordingly.
If you will take the time to re-read your post and clean up the errors, someone will answer what you have written. JonPop

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Succubus

Are you serious or joking?

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Nacho_Vidal

THETHING:

My advice is to start pumping man, I'm 6.0" girth (I know most of you are) and believe me, they all go so crazy with fat dicks.

Überschwanz

Don't you mean 5" girth?

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I'd have to think so. Most on here do not possess a 6" girth. Most of us are working towards that end result, but it's a painstaking process.