Old 05-31-2005, 09:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Longer or Thicker?

Hey you guys. I really like hangin' with you on the issues we have discussed. Since so many of you have been so sweet to respond to my two other threads, I thought I would start another one that has me personally very curious.

Are you guys trying to make your cocks longer for yourself or for your woman or potential woman? I understand everyone has self-esteem, some have a lot, some very low. And if you are trying to make your cock longer to make you feel better about yourself, then go for it.

However, if you are doing it for us women, may I suggest you focus more on the girth?

From a woman's point of view, if you guys have a 6-7 inch long cock, that is plenty long enough for most of us. Yes,I know there are some drugged-out skanky sluts who like a 15 inch dick rammed down them. But most women prefer a thicker cock than a longer one.

Let me give you guys an analogy. Please go to a Circle-K, 7-11 or other convenient store and buy an Icee or Slurpie. Take the straw out of the cup and put it right in the middle of your mouth. Can you taste or feel any of the Icee from any angle of the straw? Of course you can't. The straw is way too thin to touch any part of your mouth.

Now, I want you to go to the bakery and get some cannolis. I'm sure most of you have had a cannoli before but for those who have not, it is about 3 inches long filled with cream cheese and other sweet spices. Most cannolis are around 3-4 inches round, also. Now insert the cannoli in your mouth, but do not bite it. Can you feel the sweet sugar, spices, etc. on different areas of your mouth? You should be able to.

So, as you can see, although the straw is much longer in length than the cannoli is, it does not come anywhere close to satisfying you. This is about the best example I can come up with to show you why we women would rather have a thicker cock than a longer one.

I realize that I don't have a cock, but does any of this make any sense to you guys? I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but I really feel that if your ultimate goal is to get more pussy, you would get a lot more with a thicker cock than a longer one. If my boyfriend ever got his dick over 8 inches long, I would tell him, he can forget about ever getting on top. I would be on top ALL the time so to make sure he didn't thrust his dick up through my throat!

Please let me know what your thoughts are!

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Old 05-31-2005, 10:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I see what you're saying Jen. I personally started doing PE for myself but also for my future wife. I'm not the most muscular guy so I figure if I'm going to have one physical feature a woman can love, this might as well be it.
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Old 05-31-2005, 10:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well I would have to agree with you on the girth thing Jenn however as I have found out the pussy is a wonderful mechanism that will adapt. I'm just under 6" inch girth (5 7/8") and I've been in some canyons but they seem to like a dick so much that they do end up giving my unit a nice big hug eventually. By the same token I have been in some that was like trying to penetrate a cinder block however they always say come on in and have a nice day!! As far as length you have your personal idea on that but being 8 3/4" long I enjoy the ability to hit a miriad of positions and still be able to please a girl, for example say if she has a real big butt, for most guys doggy style is out of the question however I still get in there and get the job done. Also many women love it when I get into the CDS (cul de sac) just past the cervix and gives them shuddering orgasms. So basically I have to say don't knock it until you've tried it. Good post Jenn, you're adding some colour to our forums.
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Old 05-31-2005, 11:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Very good post Jennifer.

I would have to agree with your statement, but I think to each his (or her) own also has to be stated.

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...if you guys have a 6-7 inch long cock, that is plenty long enough for most of us..
My new girlfriend has echoed this. While dating her before we were exclusive, she would often speak of her fondness for long cocks, but has changed her mind somewhat based on the INCREDIBLE sex we're having, and often and REPEATEDLY compliments my girth. I spent the holiday weekend with her, and we had so much sex that I physically hurt her to the point where she couldn't do it anymore, and this is all due to my thickness. It's just too much friction in too short a time period, and it irritated her to the point of pain where she couldn't continue. She is a shorter gal, about 5'3", and I firmly believe that has something to do with it, although there can always be exceptions. I was relieved when I first slept with her, because of her boasting of considerable more sexual experience than I have had, I was a bit nervous being of average length, but the above average girth has been the deciding factor.

To answer your question, for me, I do PE for all of those reasons, but mainly for myself. I’ve always had a bit of a size complex, but I’m realizing now I don’t need 9 inches to please a woman. Thus I’ve lessened my PE goals. I want to be significantly larger in both dimensions, mainly in length because I know the girth is where it’s at for most women, but added length would allow greater ease with more positions. Plus the visual stimulus of a larger cock is always a turn on!
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Old 05-31-2005, 11:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well, SonicCelt, where were you when I needed you about 6 years ago? I dated a couple of guys after I graduated from high school, I am looking at my ruler right now, and I am guessing their cocks were every bit of 9-10 inches. HUGE!! Unfortunately, they didn't know how to fuck with them! I was so sore after they would fuck me. I remembered thinking if this is what fucking is all about, I might have to become a lesbian!

Not to hurt anyone's feelings, but all guys THINK they know how to fuck. Sticking your dick inside a woman and thrusting in her like no tomorrow isn't gonna cut it most of the time.

SonicCelt, you make some valid points. I bet you are not 19 or 20 years old, are you? You seem like you know what you are doing. Unfortunately, most long dick guys think all they have to do is ram it in and a girl is going to have orgasm after orgasm. WRONG!!

Maybe SonicCelt needs to start a thread and teach all the guys with 8 inches or more how to fuck. I must admit, SonicCelt, if I weren't so serious with my boyfriend, I might like to let you do me to see what all you do!!

Seriously, though, guys, I still stand by my original post that a woman would much rather have a thicker cock in her than a longer one. Again, maybe SonicCelt has brought out a bias on my part since I only had guys with huge dicks to fuck me who were very young and immature.

Thanks for the input SonicCelt.

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OK, 10 is jumpin' in here. God Jen I love this!

I'm doing PE strictly for myself. Since I'm divorced and not presently dating, I don't care right now about "women's sexual needs" and am strictly focused on my own. This being the case, I made the commitment to myself when I started this that it was strictly for me and no one else but me.

Personally, I'm shootin' for a 7" girth myself. And, I'm damn well going to succeed. I'm presently about 7 1/2 inches long. Not the best, but certainly not the worst. Based on my estimates, I think I'm closing in on 5 1/2" midshaft girth now.

Sonic absolutely makes some very valid points. Personally, I'm of the school of thought that regardless of length or circumfrence, if it's used properly, both parties will enjoy the romp.
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Old 06-01-2005, 12:12 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I do it for myself..
My main goal is girth but i wouldnt mind being over 7inch erect length
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I'm doing it for my wife. After JP bore her out (price I paid for being allowed to become a moderator) she has never been satisfied with me. Therefore, it behoves me to get a third leg down there so I can go where JP has gone.
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Old 06-01-2005, 02:04 AM   #9 (permalink)
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So your goal is to have a big cucumber dick, huh? Now see the rest of you guys, this makes me horny!!! I'm gonna tell my boyfriend he ought to follow your routine some because this is definitely a come-on for me.

Someone else wrote that they were doing this for themselves and that should obviously be your first goal. I was simply trying to add a female's point of view that if I weren't dating anyone, and had a choice of fucking a guy with a long dick or one with a real thick dick, I'd take the thick dick every time. And I think most other women would, too.

So, you can have a real long dick and where are you going to put it, or a real thick dick and fuck women like me all night long!!

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Old 06-01-2005, 03:32 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I've been lucky enough to reach the cervix with a couple of women, and man they have loved the feeling of my dick head rubbing against it. I know HITTING it can be very painful, but my experience is that gently rubbing it is an intensely good feeling. I'm about 7.5 inches long (or just slightly more recently). I'm looking for another 1/4 to 1/2 in length, and 5.5+ girth (now barely 5.25).
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Having been involved in the "swinger" scene, i've had the opportunity to hook-up with alot of women and have discussed the topic of dick size with quite a few and the conclusion is that most women do in fact prefer a thick dick over a long one. The typical length that most find enjoyable is about 7-7.5" long. Surprisingly, a good number of women don't want a very long one due to pain and a small number don't want it too thick because they really like anal and a thick dick in the ass isn't always that pleasurable. That said, i believe that alot of the pain may be due to either the man being too eager or just plain lack of lube and skill. Personally, I prefer to have too much dick than not enough... more dick gives you options than not having enough as Sonic has decribed. For this reason, i'm going for 9x7.
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Personally, I think that it depends on the size of the woman's vagina. I think that my husbands penis is just fine, he wants it bigger and that's okay to.
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I'm absolutely doing this for myself. I get laid enough, but I figure with a big cock, it'll be alot easier. I'm not going to set a goal because I wanna see how big I can get. I figure since I have a relatively small stature, most girls will think I have a small cock-- I can't wait to see their face when I pull out a fuckin heartstopper!
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I'm absolutely doing this for myself. I get laid enough, but I figure with a big cock, it'll be alot easier. I'm not going to set a goal because I wanna see how big I can get. I figure since I have a relatively small stature, most girls will think I have a small cock-- I can't wait to see their face when I pull out a fuckin heartstopper!

I am glad that your doing it for yourself,don't ever try to change yourself for a women. If you have to change your penis size, what would she ask next. If you met a woman and the only thing that you didn't like was her boobs would you ask her to get implants? What would you do if it was to big and she didn't want to sleep with you? I myself am a very petite woman and I don't want a huge penis coming towards me. I'd take off running LOL!
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I myself am a very petite woman and I don't want a huge penis coming towards me. I'd take off running LOL!
That's why I'm doing it! I love petite women. I want women to tremble at the sight of my cock.
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That's why I'm doing it! I love petite women. I want women to tremble at the sight of my cock.
...and beg you not to hurt them with your super-dong.
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...and beg you not to hurt them with your super-dong.
Definitely, definitely.
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As most of you know, PE is strictly all about me. I'll get as big as I decide to get. In time, if I find myself in a relationship, I'd like to hear "my God that's big!". Nothing would make me happier.
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I hear that all the time now. Hahaha and it does make me happy.
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Heh, heh, check out the picture I added to my profile.
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Well Uber, looks like you have proof that you finally pushed past the Cervix.

Way to go. By the way, your dick sure is a funny color. Ha,
Gotta stop drinking all those green Margartias. Snort...snicker
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Well Uber, looks like you have proof that you finally pushed past the Cervix.

Way to go. By the way, your dick sure is a funny color. Ha,
Gotta stop drinking all those green Margartias. Snort...snicker
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I found some MRI scans taken of a couple having sex. I will find the link and post it. The MRI dispelled a few notions of what actually happens... pretty interesting stuff. There are a few other MRIs that have been done since, but accessing them online requires paying.
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I do PE because it feels good to have a strong dick. The only thing I dont like is being seated. Its so un-confortable. I hate it.
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I started doing PE because I wanted a slightly bigger penis in both length and girth. Always been about avearage in terms of pretty much everything - height, weight, feet size and penis but I wanted to be bigger than average in one area. It has taken me over a year but I've finally found a good routine which I really enjoy an is starting to gain results so I'll just keep on going.
The wife has finally asked what I've been doing as in her words "I seem much more of a mouthful these days". I haven't told her about my routine yet but I think she has her suspicions.
Our first baby is due soon and I guess after that she would appreciate the extra girth I'm building up! Perhaps you guys can provide some info on what it is like to start having sex again after a baby. Up until now the wife has always had a lovely tight pussy but I hope it's not going to become the grand canyon as no amount of PE will help me then.
By the way, I like the new women's forum..very entertaining and informative.

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Hey Owen!

Since you made an inquiry about sex after kids, I'll throw in my 2 cents since I've got two myself. Sex between me and the ex Mrs. didn't change after kids. Granted, the frequency did only because the needs of a baby are quite huge (feedings, changings, sleep patters, etc...).

My ex's pussy never got out of shape, so to speak. It was always fairly tight. The one thing I did notice is that before, I used to just slide in and out without much tightness. I attribute this to the fact that my dick (pre-PE that is) wasn't as big as it's gotten now.

So, sex shouldn't really change. Why don't you introduce your wife to kegals? It's a great way for her to keep the muscles inside her vagina kept strong. This will help with any more children the two of you have as well as help the sex stay oh so sweet! Hope this helps.
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Here is the site where Uber got his pic from. http://www.penissizedebate.com/ (hope this isnt a re-post). Dont read it if you get offended easy.
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Ah yes, Penis Size Debate. Good site!
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For those who don't know, Penis Size Debate is a site with many, many pages all devoted to trying to convince people that women will be most satisfied with a 12 x 8 cock or some such nonsense. There is some interesting material there, but they way overstate both the importance of size and the actual size that is "optimum."
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For those who don't know, Penis Size Debate is a site with many, many pages all devoted to trying to convince people that women will be most satisfied with a 12 x 8 cock or some such nonsense. There is some interesting material there, but they way overstate both the importance of size and the actual size that is "optimum."
There isn't a single claim anywhere on that sight like that pleaser. All the guy says is that women prefer large penises to small penises and lays out all the reasons why, which I must say make perfect sense if you know anything about human anthropology.
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