PE 101: Length - The basics

sikdogg · 06-01-2005, 06:34 PM

Here's a great article on Length for everyone and especially newies...

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Penis Enlargement: The Long and Short of It

By: 9cyclops9

Many people think that the idea of penis enlargement is just preposterous. Most people are led to believe by "medical professionals" that the only way to enlarge your penis permanently is through surgery. Some people think that maybe pills can work. But very few believe you can actually enlarge your penis by exercising it. "It isn't a muscle," they say, "so how could an exercise make it bigger?" I have talked to nurses and doctors that tell me "Everyone knows that the penis enlargement 'phenomenon' is a big hoax. You get what you're born with."

WRONG!

In this thread I'm going to explain how to lengthen your penis through manual stretching exercises. I do these every morning. It takes about 20 minutes altogether and works very well. One thing I'm not going to say, however, is that you can gain 1-3 inches in a matter of weeks. 1-2 inches is definitely a reasonable goal, but it may take up to a year or even more to get this kind of gain. Before I tell you how to lengthen your penis, though, I'll need to explain a little about penis anatomy (it's probably more complex down there than you know).

I'm sure every man that has the slightest interest in PE has seen something similar to this:

LIG STRETCHES

Most penis enlargement sites say that the only way to enlarge your penis is to expand the corpus cavernosum so that it will hold more blood when erect. This actually is mainly for girth, and while this is one effective way to add size, it is not the only way. Another way is to stretch the suspensory and fundiform ligaments. If you grab your penis by the head and pull it straight down, you can feel the stretch in your suspensory ligament, which is along the top of your penis at the base. If you feel right at the base of your penis with your other hand, you'll be able to tell exactly where the ligament is. The best way to stretch this ligament is straight down or “Between The Cheeks” (BTC). The fundiform ligaments attach to either side of your penis, also at the base. If you stretch your penis to one side, you should feel a pull in one of your fundiform ligaments. You can also feel this ligament with your hand while pulling.

Advantages of lig stretching:

1) works very quickly
2)ligs are not as tough as the tunica (covered later)

Disadvantages of lig stretching:

1) possibility of lowered erection angle (you can get around this)
2) possibility of hair growth further up the shaft (you can also get around this)
3) possibility of "turkey neck" scrotum (guess what--you can also get around this!)
4) base girth will be slightly thicker than midshaft girth due to pulling out of the inner penis (doesn’t sound like much of a problem to me!)

TUNICA STRETCHING

The tunica is a layer of very tough fibrous tissue that surrounds the corpus cavernosum (CC) and corpus spongiosum (CS). In between the corpus cavernosum and the corpus spongiosum, the tunica forms the septum (not shown on picture). The septum is extremely tough, but there are exercises that mainly target the septum. The tunica is much more difficult to stretch than the ligs, but stretching the tunica makes girth gains easier, because in order for the corpus cavernosa to be made bigger for more blood flow, the tunica must be stretched in order to allow for this expansion. So not only does tunica stretching add length, it may also open the door for girth gains. The best angle to stretch the tunica is straight up. You won't feel as much of a burn as you do with the lig stretch, but you should still feel a good stretch. There are several other ways to stretch the tunica. They are called fulcrum stretches, because you use your other hand as a fulcrum.

The V-stretch

This is one of my favorite tunica stretches. It especially targets the septum, which is very hard to stretch. Without stretching the septum it will be very hard to make any tunica gains.

To do this stretch, you pull straight up with one hand, just like a normal tunica stretch. With the other, press down in the middle of your penis to make a V shape with your penis. You should feel a much better stretch than with a normal straight up stretch. Move your fulcrum hand to several different points on your penis to get the best stretch.

The A stretch

This stretch is fairly easy, although I don't really use it that much because I prefer the V stretch. It doesn't target the septum as much, but is a good tunica stretch. To do this stretch, with your left hand pull your penis straight out in front of you. Put your right hand underneath your penis and grab your left wrist. Now with your left hand stretch your penis over your right arm. It should resemble an "A" with your left hand being the left side ( / ) and your penis being the right side ( \ ). Your right hand will be the line in between ( - ).

Bundled stretch

Only try this after you have been stretching your tunica for a while. This is a more intense stretch, especially if you combine it with a fulcrum stretch (either A or V).

To do this stretch, you should twist your penis around 1-2 times (as much as you can) and pull straight up like a normal tunica stretch. You should feel a stronger pull than a normal straight up stretch. You can also do bundled A and V stretches. To do these, just bundle your penis and perform the stretch like normal. I find that bundled V stretches are very effective.

Advantages of tunica stretching:

1)opens the door for more girth gains
2)no hair growth on the shaft of the penis
3)less of a "turkey neck" scrotum
4)no lowered erection angle

Disadvantages of tunica stretching:

1)takes much longer than lig stretches
2)tunica is a lot harder to stretch than ligs

HOW TO GET AROUND LIG STRETCHING PROBLEMS

1)lowered erection angle

To get around this problem, you should train your PC muscle every day and make it very strong. This will also make your erections MUCH harder, and allow you to shoot further when you ejaculate.

2)hair growth on the shaft of the penis (more of a problem for circumsized guys)

Nobody wants hair 2 inches up their shaft. To get around this, stretch your shaft skin to allow for more growth room. The reason your penis gets hair on the shaft is that your inner penis is coming out of your body. It pulls the skin at the base of your penis along with it as it grows, so the hair comes along for the ride. Here is a good exercise for stretching the shaft skin. This is a quote from SizeItUp at the Matters of Size forum.

"Without lube, hold the skin back at the base as far as you can. Then do an OK grip about the area of your circumcision scar and stretch the skin in between. Do this ten minutes a day and you will increase the amount of skin on your shaft. Then when you stretch your dick, the extra skin mid-shaft will relieve the pressure on the base skin."

3)"turkey neck" scrotum

This means that your scrotum is attached higher up your penis than normal. This is easy to get around. The method is similar to the hair issue, except applied to your scrotum. If you stretch your scrotum skin out, especially near where it attaches to the base of your penis, you won't have this problem.

4)base girth is thicker than midshaft girth

This is not really a big deal, especially if you jelq or do other girth exercise regularly, because this will increase girth, especially higher up the penis. A lot of people who do girth exercises but don't do lig stretches have a "baseball bat" shape to their penis. So, if you stretch your ligs AND jelq or do other girth exercises, then your girth should be even throughout.

NEWBIE WORKOUT

Once you have done this workout for a while, you can move on to other exercises/more time as you see fit.

5 minute hot wrap (soak a washcloth in hot water and wrap it around your package)

3 sets of:

1 minute straight down stretching
1 minute left stretching
1 minute right stretching
1 minute straight up stretching

Rest 15 seconds between each stretch. Make sure you grip just behind the head. Its okay if you notice your head darkening. The first few days you may notice that you get some small red spots on the head. This is also normal, and they should go away fairly soon. If you notice any bruising, stop for a day or two or until the bruising goes away, and next time LIGHTEN UP! I find that if you use baby powder it is much easier to get a good grip.

Always remember this: If you are gaining on a certain routine, don't change it! Only add/change things if you are no longer gaining. Also I would recommend not measuring often, otherwise you may get discouraged and give up. Remember, penis enlargement takes time. If you want it, it will be worth the time and effort. Also, never hesitate to send me a private message on the Matters of Size board. Good luck!

JonPop · 06-01-2005, 07:32 PM

Mr. Minister of Information. Kudos on 2 more good find's for our boards. JP

P.S. When Jen and her B/F go to Hawaii, you can show them around the Betterman Mansion. I'll schedule the times for you.

kdub · 06-01-2005, 09:18 PM

You da man dogg!

P.S. This would make a good sticky me thinks.

Kdub

Überschwanz · 06-02-2005, 02:52 AM

Stuck it has become.

n00se'd · 06-02-2005, 05:20 AM

Well, that explains the hair on the shaft.

JustaV6 · 06-07-2005, 07:43 PM

All the information in ONE post - Amazing, and thanks for all the effort!!

printed it out and going to adjust the program... as I seek length gains

thx
JustaV6

happy stud · 06-27-2005, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sikdogg

Here's a great article on Length for everyone and especially newies...

I would like to know that after 3-4 months would ya'll recommend doing 5 sets of this routine. I hadnt really gotten any growth yet in length so I was wondering if I should be doing more sets. Thank ya'll again for ya'lls help.

slickwillie · 06-29-2005, 01:12 AM

I've been stretching like crazy lately and doing about 100 slow PJ's almost everyday. So far, so good. I've found these two exercises to work best for me also, but I'm always looking for more good info like this. Plus stretching is easier and you can do it almost anywhere :~)

e-rabbit · 07-06-2005, 05:25 AM

Whenever I do these stretches, I usually always become hard, no matter what. I usually do the stretches lightly during warmup, and then when I'm done with warming up, I can only get in a few before it gets hard. I then wait (which seems like forever ) for it to subside, and when it finally does, it still gets hard after one or two stretches. Do you guys think that I should perform them at the end of a workout? If so, will doing that take away any gains, whether it be girth or length? Thanks for any input.

pleaser · 07-06-2005, 12:51 PM

Personally, I think it is OK to do the stretches at the end of a workout. For me, the girth work seems to make my unit less likely to get too hard right away, and seems to make it more receptive to stretching. Sikdogg might have other thoughts?

e-rabbit · 07-06-2005, 10:10 PM

Thanks for the response pleaser. Tonight I'm going to give it a try. The only thing that concerns me is losing the gains by doing this. My main goal is girth, and right now I'm on a 3 days on one off, 2 days on one off schedule. I do my girth routines 2 days a week, before my days off. The other 3 days of PE usually are just stretching, manual reg. jelqs and wet ones, and the PJ. Maybe I'll just do the stretching part at the end of the "basic" exercises, and not do any at all on the girth days. What do ya'll think?

Überschwanz · 07-11-2005, 04:29 PM

Look here Mr. Tucker.

Jack · 11-06-2005, 09:13 PM

what separates the guys who were born with a large member and people like me?

flaccid I am on average 3-1/2 - 4"s, but sometimes that thing can be an inch...erect 6.5". it's amazing how much it can grow.

after reading the first post of this thread that Skidogg reprinted I am fascinated about what 'we' and myself are doing here.

I thought we were doing more than stretching ligaments and expanding the corpus cavernosum (sp).

what is inner penis and if you don't have much as referenced in another post where I believe Rob was talking about LOT then can you develop more?

what is inner penis?

how would penis pills ever work if it requires 30 minutes to 2 hours a day to stretch the penis into a larger size?

anatomically; in the end if I am able to grow my penis 1 or 2 inches larger how would it compare to someone who was naturally that size?

thanks jack

sikdogg · 11-06-2005, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack

what separates the guys who were born with a large member and people like me?

The simple answer is genetics...

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I thought we were doing more than stretching ligaments and expanding the corpus cavernosum (sp).

We are... but doing those things are what accomplishes everything.

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what is inner penis and if you don't have much as referenced in another post where I believe Rob was talking about LOT then can you develop more?

The inner penis is penile shaft that is inside the body. It is a penis "slack" for a lack of a better term. Everyone has it and varies from one person to the next. It is basically slack penis between the bulb at the very base and the suspensory ligament. To answer your question, no you can't develop more.

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how would penis pills ever work if it requires 30 minutes to 2 hours a day to stretch the penis into a larger size?

If you do a search on penis pills, you will find alot of threads on it. But to summarize... penis pills WILL NOT make your penis bigger by themselves. What they do is facilitate better erections so that it may appear bigger. They are however effective when added to a good PE routine. The only real issue i have with penis pills is the cost... you can buy the active ingredients in them separately and get the same results for less money.

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anatomically; in the end if I am able to grow my penis 1 or 2 inches larger how would it compare to someone who was naturally that size?

I don't understand your question... if you grew your penis 2" and was 8.5", it would be the same size as someone that was naturally 8.5". But since most men are born with approximately 6" of penis, you would be in the 90 percentile of men in terms of penis size.

Jack · 11-06-2005, 11:38 PM

"I don't understand your question... if you grew your penis 2" and was 8.5", it would be the same size as someone that was naturally 8.5". But since most men are born with approximately 6" of penis, you would be in the 90 percentile of men in terms of penis size."

Thanks Skidogg,

what I mean to say is; if I add 2"s of length to my penis how will it differ from one that was born that way? A natural 8"s does not have stretched ligaments and a mechanically enlarged corpus cavernosum.

I am wondering if what I am doing to make my penis bigger...be virtually the same as one that is 8"s that is natural?

Thanks, Jack

sikdogg · 11-07-2005, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack

what I mean to say is; if I add 2"s of length to my penis how will it differ from one that was born that way? A natural 8"s does not have stretched ligaments and a mechanically enlarged corpus cavernosum.

I am wondering if what I am doing to make my penis bigger...be virtually the same as one that is 8"s that is natural?

I would say yes they would be the same from a visual and functional perspective. Let's think about this for a moment... a person born with an 8"x6" penis would have to have a larger CC so in that respect they would be the same, mechanically enlarged or not. The only difference between one born with a large dick and one who enlarged it via PE would be the length of the ligs in some cases but not all.

The bottom line to this line of questioning is... who gives a crap?!?! if you want to make your dick bigger then start a PE routine, if not don't. When the dick is in the pussy, all that matters is your size (and technique). How you got it is irrevelent.

Jack · 11-07-2005, 01:22 AM

thanks Ski!

I am trying to understand better what I am doing and or striving for with regard to doing these exercises. I am seeing better what is happening and starting to get more serious about making changes to my lifestyle and what I do with my time.

At 53 I can see the direction things are headed and unlike ears and feet my dick is not getting bigger...if anything it is getting smaller and less functional.

Thanks for helping me understand what is happening with regard to PE!

Jack

slimthug · 07-03-2006, 04:44 AM

Stretching is my favorite thing to do..I just thought I'd post on this to get more people talking about stretching...Its good stuff and needs to be talked about! ;)

bluehorse · 07-09-2006, 03:11 AM

I dont get your newbie workout

left-right streching, straight up streching

I just found this website, and looks interesting, although Im not going to hide that Im very skeptical.

I need a crash course, Thanks for your time

Überschwanz · 07-09-2006, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bluehorse

I dont get your newbie workout

left-right streching, straight up streching

I just found this website, and looks interesting, although Im not going to hide that Im very skeptical.

I need a crash course, Thanks for your time

It means you stretch the penis in that direction. You have every right to be skeptical, but there are many men who do PE because it works. Don't waste your time on pills though.

slimthug · 07-09-2006, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bluehorse

I dont get your newbie workout

left-right streching, straight up streching

I just found this website, and looks interesting, although Im not going to hide that Im very skeptical.

I need a crash course, Thanks for your time

I was skeptical too when I started a couple months ago...But now I'm a beliver.

10 · 07-09-2006, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bluehorse

I dont get your newbie workout

left-right streching, straight up streching

I just found this website, and looks interesting, although Im not going to hide that Im very skeptical.

I need a crash course, Thanks for your time

Prior to PE, I couldn't adequately fill a Trojan Magnum condom...........now I can! Thanks to this amazing process! This isn't a hoax......it's very real.......but, you get what you give.

bluehorse · 07-09-2006, 09:35 AM

ok guys, the idea of getting longer and wider is exciting...

so what do I need to do to start?

can someone direct to the link where it explains in detail what and how I need to do these stretches...

thanks a lot!

10 · 07-09-2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bluehorse

ok guys, the idea of getting longer and wider is exciting...

so what do I need to do to start?

can someone direct to the link where it explains in detail what and how I need to do these stretches...

thanks a lot!

Just put in "newbie routine" in the search tab and you'll get all the information you need to get started. Good luck!

JonPop · 07-09-2006, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bluehorse

ok guys, the idea of getting longer and wider is exciting...

so what do I need to do to start?

can someone direct to the link where it explains in detail what and how I need to do these stretches...

thanks a lot!

Hey bluehorse, welcome to the Betterman. go here for my Newbie Routine.

A Beginners routine for NEWBIES.

anvil · 07-17-2006, 12:16 AM

hi. I'm new to this site but I've been PEing for about a year & a half.