little_timmy

hello Ladies,


I am a reasonably young man and since I was picked on a little as a kid I've always liked to carry a bit of muscle, both for protection and the ladies pleasure. What I want to know is where the muscle should be and how much.

My arms are pretty muscular but I think I need to work on the stomach and chest a bit more. I'm not fat, my stomach is just pretty much flat. What do you ladies think to pecks and abs? I've some pictures of guys pecks and I understand it takes a lot of work to get them, but are they worth it?

Timmy

Succubus

I married Incubus who had a ripped body from the start. Yeah, they are nice but if a woman loves you for you then they don't matter. Don't let yourself go, and get out of shape. Just keep it real,us women like normal. If your in better shape then the women she might feel a little insecure.

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Succubus has a point timmy. I've been pumping iron for years, literally, to get a hard, adonis physique. At this point in my life, I'm as close as I'll ever get. The best feature I've got is my pecks. I've got a great set. But, I also have a large layer of fat over my abs which prevents me from seeing a six pack, regarless of how much I diet or exercise.

I agree with Lisa. Don't let yourself go by any means, but be happy with who you are and women will pick up on that and that's what attracts them.

The only point that Succubus makes that I myself have to argue is about being in better shape than a potential partner. If you meet a girl who is in worse shape than you and this makes her insecure, then she has two choices: 1. Do something about it. 2. Not waste YOUR time.

Speaking from personal experience, it's not worth it for you to be with someone who is constantly feeling self conscious about herself because you work out and take care of yourself.

Marty5379

There is nothing like knowing you are loved because of what you actually are - the real, normal you - not the stretched dick'd iron pumped person we may create through hard work. Nothing on this or other PE forum makes me more angry than to listen to a member talk about how he wants to make his dick or body bigger so some sweet thang will give him the needed attention or take his breath away.

Let me tell you, one thing that I really love about my wife is the fact that she cares so little about my body. I, on the other hand, exercise for good health. But if I weighed 500 pounds she'd love me just the same.

Damit, don't fall for a girl that has fallen for your pumped up dick or body. Fall for the one that falls for you as a person. That body will age, wrinkle, decay. But you will always be you. She must want you, not what you can create for a short time.

Now, I am through bitching for one night.

sikdogg

I totally agree... dating is a two-way street. You are evaluating her just as she is evaluating you... so if she feels insecure because you have a hard body, move on and don't waste any more time on her. You want a woman who is secure about herself and can appreciate your hard efforts. C'mon let's get real here... we workout not only to be healthy and feel good about ourselves, but also to attract the opposite sex. If she can't handle that, then she a waste of time.

sikdogg

That's great but not everyone wants to be normal if that means neglecting yourself to the point where you're satisfied with your potbelly. I for one prefer to look good. I'm married and don't workout for anyone but myself and my wife. I want to look good for her and to make her feel secure when i put my arms around her.

There was a time that i let myself go and although my wife was accepting of my physical shape, i wasn't and did something about it. She's told me that as much as she loved me when i was overweight, she much happier with my appearance now that i look better.

Let's not fool ourselves... if your wife or gf finds you attractive with your potbelly, she'll find you that much more attractive without it. Let's not let our partner's acceptance of our poor shape justify letting ourselves go.

Yes you body will wrinkle and decay, but let's not make excuses to not make ourselves as attractive to our partner as possible. She get's her hair done, plucks her eyebrows, shaves/waxes her legs, trims her bikini line, puts on make-up, and wears clothes that flatter her body... why because to make herself more attractive to us guys. Yea... she doesn't have to and we'd still love her just the same, but isn't it nice that she goes through all that for us?? What's so hard about taking an hour out of your life to improve your appearance for her and possibly save yourself from a heart attack.

sikdogg

I'm not a woman but i think that you should build your body evenly and not focus on any one or two muscle groups. A guy with big pecs and arms but with small legs will look funny. You want to build a symetrical build where everything is in proportion.

As far as it being worth it... the health aspect of working out is always worth the effort. Looking good to chicks is just a side benefit.

Marty5379

Silk, either I did not make my point clear or you missed it. Where in the world are you inferring that I believe it is not a good idea to take care of your body? Care of the body was not my point, although I did state that I exercise. The point was that the body is not what keeps her around as your wife till death do you part. I think any woman would agree. They like the person more than the person's body. And if they don't, stay away. That's the point.

sikdogg

...i must have just missed your point. It's all good... I didn't intend to direct my response to you specifically but smply to comment on some points that you brought up. That's all...

little_timmy

Thanks for the input fellas and lady

jennifer

little_timmy:

So many people have given you some really great advice in this thread! There is much more to relationships than killer bodies.

In your initial post you did not mention if you were looking for a girlfriend or just wanted to pick a girl up in relation to your question of do women like guys with a great physique. If that's all you want is a good time, then, yes, I think THOSE types of women are caught up in the superficial aspects of rock hard bodies. Go to a bar and get one for the night. These women are generally really young, selfish and immature. So, be careful!!

However, if you are looking for a relationship, then understand that women want much more than a guy with a great body. They want a guy who is nice, smart, charming, interesting and not totally obsessed with himself. They want one who is going to make her feel special.

We are not obsessed with where you work, how much money you make, what type car you drive, your penis size, etc. We just want to be made to feel special and to have some fun.

So, as Lisa said, just be yourself and don't try to impress us with stuff we really are not interested in the first place.

Jen

little_timmy

I just want to look my best, I admit I don't mind showing off my body to women and wouldn't dislike being able to do it more. And I do understand there is more to a relationship than looks but I would feel more comftable looking better.

Überschwanz

We all would but we can't all be Charles Atlas. Heck, I'm cursed with the skinny genes and no matter how much I eat, I don't gain a pound.

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little_timmy

I'm a little like you, I can eat without gaining much weight but I stick at a fairly bulky build.

sikdogg

Consider that a blessing bro... even though your may find it hard to make gains, any gain you get are typically lean muscle gain. I was like that when i was younger but my metabolism has changed as i've gotten older. Now have to be aware of everything i eat.

sikdogg

Don't you think you're over-simplifying things a bit?? Just because a guy has a good body doesn't mean that he's not all those things... i concede that there are more important things than looks, but with all things being equal... looks will make or break the deal. This is the same for both men and women... typically, there has to be a level of attraction before most people will give the opposite sex a chance. If two guys were to approach you the same day and not knowing anything more than one is fit and looks good with the other being just average, who would you choose to go out with first??

I don't consider myself a stud by any means, but one who tries hard to be healthy and look good for my wife. I take offense to the underlying theme on this thread that only average looking guys or guys with average physiques can be nice, smart, charming, interesting, and able to make a woman feel special. This is incorrect just like saying all blondes with big boobs are all air-heads. I think that if more guys actually got off their butts and worked out regularly, heart disease wouldn't be the number one (or number two, i don't recall exactly) cause of death in this country.

You shouldn't be obsessed with it but you should put serious consideration to them as they are what determines your quality of life down the road. The whole premise that love is all you need is a fallacy... there are alot of other considerations if you plan on a long term relationship with someone in the hopes of marriage and starting a family down the road. I'm not trying to poo-poo you as i think you have good points, i just think that alot of young women fall into the whole "love will overcome" thing and find years down the road that although her man takes care of her emotionally, he can't seem to get his act together to provide their family with a home, nice cars, a retirement plan, money for college, etc...

jennifer

Hi Sikdogg:

Go back and reread my post. I never said anything of the sort that "only average guys... can make a women feel special".

What I said is that we are not as hung up on looks as you may think we are. In a perfect world, who wouldn't want an attractive person to date? However, I think you will find women are more interested in the attributes I mentioned than on just looks.

As far as taking offense, I personally take offense that you think under your scenario if two strange guys approached me, I would automatically pick the one who is more handsome and more well built? If I'm in skank mode and just want to get laid, then your premise would be correct. However, if I want a relationship, then I'm not going to make any kind of decision until I know a little more about both of them.

The guy who is so well built may be a total jerk and think he's God's gift to women because he has a great body. Or, he could be a complete gentlemen. This is my point - you don't know by simply just looking at someone.

This is the woman's perspective, guys. If you want a serious relationship, there are other things we consider besides just looks.

Jen

sikdogg

I don't think a woman is a skank just because she would prefer to date a handsome guy over a one that isn't. This is human nature... we are all wired to find the best attributes in the opposite sex, and since we know nothing about them when we first meet them we make our first decisions based on what we see. I don't frown or label on any man or woman for doing this...