after9, intro and goals

after9 · 07-19-2005, 05:06 PM

Hi all,

To introduce myself I'm 29 years old and married with kids. I'm in pretty good shape, I would consider myself above average in physical shape and appearance. Graduated college, had the time of my life there. Now I stay busy running my business, spending time with the family and other hobbies I'm interested in.

I learned about natural PE about 5 years ago. Started out doing jelq's and stretches till one day my wife walked in on my and thought I was masturbating. I had been on the routing for about a month, no gains so I gave it up. Then two years ago I stumbled onto the bib hanger. I made my own and used it for about three months off and on. I had to hide from my family to use it and it didn't work that great, again no gains so I gave it up. Now I attribute all of my failing previous attemts to a lack of consistancy, I would only PE occasionally when I could so I was not suprised with the results.

Now I have found the penis master, what a great product. I was very impressed with the construction. This is the type of devised I needed instead of the bib so I could wear it discreatly, they were out then but cost $300.

My wife is against any type of pe. She says she is happy with what I got and is very turned off by the whole idea of pe. There was some show on about it just last week on different types of pe and she was so disgusted about it all. This is one reason I like the penis master because I can wear it under my clothes

Why do I want a bigger penis. I've never had anyone complain and actually heard the "big" comment a few times. I'm definalty an insecure person so this could be a big part of my problem. I've always wanted to be huge, when you pull it out they just stare and think of running, lol. I think with a bigger penis it would help my general security and I just want to know I've got all my wife would ever want.

Current stats:

el 7"
bpel 7.25"
eg 5.5"

my penis is curved, like a banana so its hard to get a good measurement, I've gotten 7.5 bpel a few times but will use the 7.25 as my offical. When I am erect my penis touches my stomach, heard about lot and need to learn more about it.

My goals:
el 9"
bpel 9.25"
eg 6." max (happy with 5.5)

My routine:
pennis master only: min 3 hours a day with 5-6 hours on weekends
jelq's: light jelq's 50 reps after removing pennis master mostly to help blood flow.

I'm not in a hurry to get these gains, I'm using the pennis master with the largest extend bars in it now. I'm on my 2nd week with it now and I will measure once a month to see any gains. Figure I'll see my first real gains in 6 months or so.

Great site and thanks in advance for any help
after9

kdub · 07-19-2005, 08:30 PM

Excellent first post friend.

Follow JonPops newbie routine in the Penis Enlargement area to steer you onto a full routine. It does not have to be done every day but just 3 times a week along with your PM work and you will gain.

As for the gains I measure every 8 weeks and adjust my routine accordingly.

Kdub

formeormyself · 07-19-2005, 10:04 PM

Yes, I agree, excellent first post! I am curious to why your wife finds pe disgusting. It is natural and safe, if you do it right. My fiancee doesn't think I need anymore, she's great, but she still supports my decision to do so. Our, mine and your, stats are about the same, you have a little more girth(grrrrrrr, j/k), so I know what boat you are in. I was just curious to why she doesn't support you in your decision to do PE. Would you support her, if there was a way to exercise her breast to make them grow, if she wanted to do so?

10 · 07-19-2005, 10:17 PM

after9:

Welcome to Betterman friend!! You'll find lots and lots of supportive, helpful brothers just like you who are in the same boat you're in.

Sucks that your wife won't support you on this venture. It's for your benefit and hers!! I can understand your position though, if I were still married, my now ex wouldn't have supported my decision to do this either (that's why she's my ex!!!!LOL).

In any event, welcome aboard and feel free to give a shout out if you need help!!

Rob · 07-20-2005, 12:41 AM

Welcome aboard! Hope we can help, and maybe you will help some others.

Rob

after9 · 07-20-2005, 03:32 PM

Thanks all, great to be here. As for the wife, she is really against any type of cometic surgery from years of parental comments. Where as I am for whatever makes you happy, as long as its somewhat moral and legal, go for it. Looking deeper into the situation she does have small breasts and would get implants if her dad wouldn't kill her, so there may be some jelously of natural pe vs no way for her to get bigger than implants. The only part of the show we watched was on surgery and hanging, where they had a 15lb weight. They talked about the possible problems these could create and they both looked weird to her. When it comes to sex, she has a small (narrow) mouth which limits oral and since our last child some sexual positions are uncomfortable to her, thus larger dong could make these even harder to do. We've tried anal a couple of times but it hurt here too bad. My thoughts are these porno guys with 9+ do it so we could do, just have to take time, she fells she is just too small (she is overall a small girl) thus another reason to be against a bigger penis. She also swears she is more than happy with mine, has the "o" everytime, and mines the biggest shes seen. Back to my insecurites, I think the opposite and she doesn't want to hurt my feelings. So overall my reason for pe is selfish, its for me, to make me feel better about myself. If and when I get to 8" I'll see how it goes and if her fears are true then I'll stop, if not I'll go to my goal of 9.25".

10 · 07-20-2005, 03:41 PM

after9:

Why would her dad "kill her" so to speak if she got implants? Is it not her body to with as she pleases? And, is she not a grown woman? I've got two daughters that's why I ask. I think the same way you do, as long as it makes you happy and it isn't illegal, then do it!

As to the wife, you may have some issues there man. Just be careful and while the decision should be yours ultimately to continue with pe, you really need to consider her feelings as well. Maybe a mutual compromise or something? Just a thought.

pleaser · 07-20-2005, 04:19 PM

Personally I think there is a big difference between cosmetic surgery and things like working out to build muscle or PE. I find something unsettling about cosmetic surgery unless there is some kind of deformity or SERIOUS appearance issue. When it comes to small breasts, I really feel that women should not be made to feel so inadequate that they are willing to undergo major surgery with all it's risks to get implants that themselves can cause problems later on. Also, I happen to find very small breasts sexy in their own way and it saddens me that women will throw away that special gift to conform to certain "norms."

Anyway, it IS their body to do with what they want, so I can't take too strong a position. But I do think there is a difference between surgery and the PE methods that we talk about here.

Finally, I agree with 10 fully about considering your wife's feelings.

after9 · 07-20-2005, 06:25 PM

10, I am considering her feelings as my plan is to "level off" to say at around 8 - 8.25" to see how things go, I think that would give us a good meaure to see how she likes it or even notices it, if she's into it, I'll let her in and continue, if not I'll stop.

As to the father thing, I have heard him comment and I'm sure my wife has heard it alot more and just one for example is his thoughts on women who get implants are just doing it to attrack other men, not for themselves or their husbands... There are many more I've and my wife have heard thus her belief that he would make these comments to her. They have a belief of you should be happy with what god gave you (don't think they are all that holy) I have never said anything about her getting implants, and am happy either way, of course if she wanted them, as long as it was to make her happy I'd let her.

10 · 07-20-2005, 08:21 PM

I can totally relate to your wife's dad after9 as mine had the same mentality. He preferred the "au naturale" look to women. No makeup, full bush, you know, the whole package of naturalness. I, on the other hand, am the exact opposite. Granted, I look and sound just like my dad BUT when it comes to aesthetics, I'm all for it. If my wife wanted implants, go for it! "If if makes you happy" has always been my philosophy to life.

I realize for your wife, having heard this stuff her entire life, it has had an impact on how she views stuff like this. It's a pity to me as I feel men and women should be allowed to explore things and change things about themselves without ridicule from anyone else. You've got one life, enjoy it!

kal · 07-20-2005, 09:01 PM

after9:
your wife's views on pe are probably the same as her views on masturbation. You said its from her father, but it probably goes back many generations. Those are just old-fashioned people for ya. They call it "un-natural" or other stupid things, and inflict you with guilt at the highest level. They even stoop so low as to say things like "You should be happy with what God gave you", I look at it this way- If God did'nt want us to enlarge our penises, he would've kept us ignorant on the knowledge of pe.

JonPop · 07-20-2005, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal

I look at it this way- If God did'nt want us to enlarge our penises, he would've kept us ignorant on the knowledge of pe.

Amen Kal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10

You've got one life, enjoy it!

Take it from one who has seen the ending of young lives,
this statement is so true.

after9 · 08-17-2005, 07:27 PM

Starting Stats 7/11/05

BPEL: 7.25
EG 5.5

Current Stats 8/15/05

BPEL: 7.75
EG 5.5

I messed up my original measurements. I had used a cloth measuring tape and I guess I didn't go down far enough to get a true bone pressed measurement. New measurement was taken with a plastic ruler that I could press down to the bone, even though I felt I was cheating. By screwing up the original measurement I'm really not sure if I've gained any or not. I've been doing the newbe routine (streaches only) and wearing the pm avg 2 hrs a night. When I see 8" I'll know I've gained something. Funny thing is even though my penis is 1/2" longer than I thought, I still think its small. Now I won't stop till I got 10", forget 9". A couple of mornings I have woken up with a huge limp hang, like 6 1/2". I caught my wife doing a double take one morning when I walked by as did I when I got in the mirror and had to run and measure it. Not sure why its only occasionally, boy I wish it would stay that way but oh well guess thats how it goes. Will report back in another month.