Old 08-14-2005, 10:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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500 PJs/day is OK?

I started PJ a week ago without the newbie routine. I started with 50-100 PJs and now 400-500 PJs daily, all once, before going to bed. Is it Ok??

Do I need to lubricate the penis?

I am also using PM for 3+3hours daily and ENLARGEL before going to bed.

After how much time I should expect some results?
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Old 08-14-2005, 11:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have no experience with the JP, but I understand that it is very intense. I'd recommend that you start doing the newbie routine now. It's basic exercises will condition your penis and provide the foundation for all your gains. I would say that you shouldn't increase your PJ use until you've got a few weeks of the newbie routine done.

I understand that the PJ should be used with lubrication, but there are other people here who can answer that better than me.

If you are consistent in your routine, you very well might see results in the first month. Everybody is different, of course. I hope you have some good starting measurements. Why don't you start a progress tracking thread, and keep your measurements there.

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Old 08-14-2005, 11:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Cheerful:

Welcome to Betterman. I wouldn't recommend usage of the PJ until you've properly conditioned your dick using JP's newbie routine. The PJ is a very stressful tool on the penis and can bring about injury if not done with the proper amount of care.

Yes, lubrication should absolutely be used. I can't imagine how you'd be able to use the PJ without lubricant.

As to your results, well, everyone is different. Don't expect too much too soon. It can take months and years to get to where you want to be. Just sit back, relax and enjoy the pleasurable ride that PE is!!
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Old 08-16-2005, 12:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i agree with wanna 10 incher you are going to just hurt yourself using the jelq device if you dont condition your penis first, the penis has many sensitive nerves and vessles and i find myself if i jelq to hard you get red spots or bubbles as i call them. These go away quickly if your penis is allready conditioned. These red spots on the penis appear usually when you are too hard while jelqing. Dont jelq if you feel pain not unless you are tolerant to pain. The newbie routine is just as good or better than the jelq device. I'de say you would only use the jelq device if you are well expereinced at jelqing.
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Old 08-16-2005, 03:52 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I started PJ a week ago without the newbie routine. I started with 50-100 PJs and now 400-500 PJs daily, all once, before going to bed. Is it Ok??

Do I need to lubricate the penis?

I am also using PM for 3+3hours daily and ENLARGEL before going to bed.

After how much time I should expect some results?
I know I am late, but better late than never, welcome! As for your first question, I belive like others said if you are a newbie 400 pjs are TOO MUCH, you need to condition your penis first! I suggest doing a good 6 weeks of the newbie routine. Secondly, I ALWAYS use proper lubrication when I jelq. Lubrication is essential. Lastly, everyone's body is different, some might see results after a month or two, others might take a year or more.
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