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Old 11-18-2005, 06:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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PM wear time, traction, and results gained thereof

Hello,

I've been lurking in this forum for a while, and as of lately I've haven't had much to expound upon or ask. I've had my PM device for a little over a year now, and although I have not used it regularly, I have seen small gains.

My main obstacle in wearing the PM device regularly is the question of comfort. I feel as though if I'm not getting a good, tactile stretch then I'm just wasting my time. However, I have pondered this for a while, and upon re-reading the PM device manual, I've come to a conclusion of sorts.

The function of the PM device is two-fold in it's lengthening: 1) Stretching the suspendatory ligament, tunica, and whatever other ligaments there are to stretch in the groin area, and 2) Keeping the penis stretched for an elongated period of time in order to promote cellular construction that will ultimately produce permanent gains in penis size.

Wearing the device with a lot of traction is, imho, is much more effective at stretching the ligaments in the groin area in order to make them stretch, and release, more of the shaft that is hidden inside of the body. Wearing the device with a small amount of traction over a long period of time would be used to promote cellular construction in the penis to increase the side of the penis itself.

I have, in my past excursions into penis enlargement, used weights and manual stretching in order to lengthen my penis, and I feel that henceforth using the PM device for a strong stretch is not necessary since I would not benefit from ligament stretching, and should therefore rely on the cellular reconstruction aspect of the PM device, which would require me to use less traction and would, in that same right, allow me to wear the PM device for an extended period of time comfortably because it would be unecessary to wear the strap behind my glans tightly.

I will begin anew with these thoughts in mind and see how I progress. I would like to know if thinking in this manner, that you should analyze your LOT, and then decide which method would be better for you, would be a proper prerequisite to penis enlargement workouts.

Also, I'd like to know if, in your collective personal experience, you find that in using the PM device to promote cellular construction, that you would still require a hardy stretch (high traction) to get results, or if a light stretch (low traction) over an extended period of time would yield results that are worse, equal to, or better.

In summary, I think that low traction and high duration would yield better results when promoting cellular construction, and that high traction and low duration would yield better results when trying to stretch ligaments.

Please respond with any thoughts, criticisms, queries, and etc.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 11-18-2005, 03:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Your logic makes sense to me Nuclear. This is one of the popular topics guys have when discussing the PeniMaster.
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Old 11-18-2005, 03:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This really does make sense. I thought when I first got my PM that I wanted to start adding rods as soon as possible to see gains in length. I have added rods to get a good stretch but after a while I backed off a little mainly due to comfort, but I like the logic as well.
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Old 11-19-2005, 05:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
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PM Time, Traction, Etc

I have also had the PM device for about 1-year. Intially I started out with maximum tension, shorter wear time (1,200 g/1-hour/1-Day). I didn't seem to get as much growth as when I swithed to (800g/2-hour/2-Day). Since switching over to the longer period, less tension, I have found better results. In six months I have increased by 1/3" in girth, and 1/2" in full erect length. I have also noticed that the flaccid length has increased by 1".

About 2-months ago I purchased the silicone piching type head from one of the members here on this site. I also purchased the silicone wrap. The pinching head fits directly over the end of the PM. And with the silicone wrap it is a very quick and comfortable way to wear the PM. I highly recommend this product.

My wife has known about the PM for many months. However recently she has begun to comment on the bigger size I am, especially when we have sex. She difinitely likes the larger girth. At the base I am about 5-1/2"" and at mid shaft I am about 5". The other surprise I have had is the increase in size of the penis head. I haven't measured it, but it has to be 3/4" larger in girth than my base dimension.

Over the last couple of months I have begun to track my progress monthly. So far with wearing the new setup and time/traction, I am gaining about 0.116"/month in length and 0.085"/month in mid shaft girth.
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I have also had the PM device for about 1-year. Intially I started out with maximum tension, shorter wear time (1,200 g/1-hour/1-Day). I didn't seem to get as much growth as when I swithed to (800g/2-hour/2-Day). Since switching over to the longer period, less tension, I have found better results. In six months I have increased by 1/3" in girth, and 1/2" in full erect length. I have also noticed that the flaccid length has increased by 1".

About 2-months ago I purchased the silicone piching type head from one of the members here on this site. I also purchased the silicone wrap. The pinching head fits directly over the end of the PM. And with the silicone wrap it is a very quick and comfortable way to wear the PM. I highly recommend this product.

My wife has known about the PM for many months. However recently she has begun to comment on the bigger size I am, especially when we have sex. She difinitely likes the larger girth. At the base I am about 5-1/2"" and at mid shaft I am about 5". The other surprise I have had is the increase in size of the penis head. I haven't measured it, but it has to be 3/4" larger in girth than my base dimension.

Over the last couple of months I have begun to track my progress monthly. So far with wearing the new setup and time/traction, I am gaining about 0.116"/month in length and 0.085"/month in mid shaft girth.
That's great to hear jblade! Keep it up.
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Old 12-28-2005, 09:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Where can you purchase the silicone wrap?
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Old 01-16-2006, 09:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Yes, where can you purchase the silicone wrap? It would be nice to have that when (if?) my PM gets here.

I must say I am a bit disapointed by the results mentioned in this forum, they are WAY out of line (lesser gains) with what is promoted on the pmdevice.com site.
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Yes, where can you purchase the silicone wrap? It would be nice to have that when (if?) my PM gets here.

I must say I am a bit disapointed by the results mentioned in this forum, they are WAY out of line (lesser gains) with what is promoted on the pmdevice.com site.
Practically speaking, you can always trust real customers more than any company. They want to sell more PM's afterall, so it's in their interest to hype it.
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Old 01-16-2006, 05:40 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Practically speaking, you can always trust real customers more than any company. They want to sell more PM's afterall, so it's in their interest to hype it.
Uber is right here. But, in their studies, remember the numbers are an average and in most cases the highs and lows get thrown out to get an accurate average. In any event, people respond different to different things, and where one guy gains 1" in 2 months other guys may gain faster or slower. The positive side here is, "We Can Gain".
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Old 01-17-2006, 10:07 PM   #10 (permalink)
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This brings up an interesting question:

Is the study cited by the manufacturers of the PM device publically available? Is it published in any journal or research periodical? I'm very interested in getting my hands on a copy of the original write up. If anyone has any information as to how I'd go about getting one, please tell me. Thank you in advance.
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I'd be surprised if there really IS a study ;)
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The best study you'll find for the PeniMaster, is right here in these forums.
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Old 01-18-2006, 01:01 AM   #13 (permalink)
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JonPop, that's all well and good, but the manufacturer of the PM device cites an impressive research study and I'd like to review it firsthand. I feel it would give me a better insight as to how I should personalize my PM device usage.

BTW, I'm glad that you are feeling better!
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LOL... yeah. There IS no study LOL
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Should i add rods when the tension is at 4 or 5? or should i adjust the rods every week like once a week? I wear the PM for awhile then the tension gets low, to about the 4 1/2 mark. What to dooooo????????
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88man,

It has been my experience that you should not be concerned so much with the amount of traction as you should with the total amount of time you wear the device on a daily basis. You should base your decision to add rods/traction moreso on how it feels physically rather than the notches on the device itself. Try one day with added rods for a few hours and see if you can maintain a proper degree of circulation in your glans while wearing the device with the new extended length. If you are required to tighten the straps to a point where you are cutting off circulation in order to keep your glans attached and not slipping out, then the rods are too long and their addition is premature.

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If you add rods prematurely (premature attachulation) you will also put undue stress on the device that can break it especially the mounting brackets.
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That was very funny. Thanks for the laugh.
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I somewhat agree with Nuclear, listen to your own body and it will tell you in most cases what you can withstand. But, the notches are on the Pm for a reason. They are there for a guide to insure that you are not applying to much tension, since to much tension could cause injury. It may not be painful, but be careful.
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