already 21days no penimaster - Page 2

Simply_F · 03-04-2006, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Überschwanz

Don't get sarcastic with me buddy. You knew exactly what I meant.

If I go to McDonald's and they've run out of hamburger buns, then they can't make me a hamburger can they?

Where is the sarcasm, man???

If there is not hamburger from 11-12-05 for me, there shouldn't be hamburger to nobody else (following your argument)... or they shoud?

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Originally Posted by Überschwanz

Furthermore, if the post office hasn't been able to deliver it, are you 100% sure that you didn't make a mistake when entering the delivery address?

C'mon, buddies ... do you really read my posts?

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Originally Posted by Simply_F

I purchased the combo (enlargel, jelq device, PM) the 12 of November of 2005. Two weeks later I received packed together the enlargel and jelq device.

Überschwanz · 03-04-2006, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply_F

Where is the sarcasm, man???

If there is not hamburger from 11-12-05 for me, there shouldn't be hamburger to nobody else (following your argument)... or they shoud?

Sorry, it just came accross that way. If they can't get it delivered to you, ask them to credit you and just try ordering it again separately. I had to do that sort of thing once with something I bought off the net and it cleared everything up really fast.

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Originally Posted by Simply_F

C'mon, buddies ... do you really read my posts?

Okay, you make a good point. This is hard to explain. If delivery failed once, then I would think that maybe the person putting the delivery address on the package made a mistake. I've had that happen before. Twice makes it doubtful.

Simply_F · 03-04-2006, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Überschwanz

If they can't get it delivered to you, ask them to credit you

That's exactly what I've said to Kenny in my last mail.

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Originally Posted by Überschwanz

I would think that maybe the person putting the delivery address on the package made a mistake

I don't know if someone from N.A has the posibility to check the returned package and compare it with their database. Perhaps all this trouble is due a simple typo.

Thanks.

I would appreciate the help from someone from N.A in this forum too.

Simply_F · 03-22-2006, 01:58 PM

I only want to say that my PM has come. Thanks to you for your replies and to Kenny for the support.

See you here...

Ironman · 03-27-2006, 05:35 PM

I try to e-mail Naturesaccent for some info on tracking #, then I try to send it. The next page came up as unknown domain. Then try another logon name on the computer, it was same message. What should I do? I listed my order # and other info.

JonPop · 03-27-2006, 05:59 PM

What did you order? And, when did you place your order?

Ironman · 03-28-2006, 06:30 AM

JonPop, I've order Pm device combo, I order on March 23, 2006. I tried to email Naturesaccent.com several times but the next page says unknown domain. What should I do? Now March 28, i went to my email from Naturesaccent.com for conformation order, then decided email from there.

Ironman · 03-31-2006, 05:26 PM

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Mad Dog · 06-09-2006, 04:29 AM

Very interesting.. On this page were Nature's Accents buyer's complaints. He said that he haven't got the order which was placed and paid more than two month ago. Now Nature's Accents representatives completely ignore him. Now I see that this message was deleted from this thread. Smells shady..

Überschwanz · 06-09-2006, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog

Very interesting.. On this page were Nature's Accents buyer's complaints. He said that he haven't got the order which was placed and paid more than two month ago. Now Nature's Accents representatives completely ignore him. Now I see that this message was deleted from this thread. Smells shady..

He never produced proof that he made a payment. That's what is shady.

Besides, Betterman is not used for customer complaints against Nature's Accents.

Mad Dog · 06-09-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Überschwanz

He never produced proof that he made a payment. That's what is shady.

So you suppose he told bullshit? Then it's just curious, why Rob assured him on Thunder's that the problem will be solved.. The point is that I personally know this person, and know all this situation pretty well. What damned proof do you need?

I'm now hold in my hands his Credit Card Statement and I see a bill:

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Purchase: 04.04.06 00:00:00; USA 800-9795357 NATURES ACCENTS; 4 816.93

this amount is in Russian Roubles. Do you want a scan of this document?

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Originally Posted by Überschwanz

Besides, Betterman is not used for customer complaints against Nature's Accents.

So where else should he go for satisfaction, if the emails is completely ignored?

Überschwanz · 06-09-2006, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog

So you suppose he told bullshit? Then it's just curious, why Rob assured him on Thunder's that the problem will be solved.. The point is that I personally know this person, and know all this situation pretty well. What damned proof do you need?

I'm now hold in my hands his Credit Card Statement and I see a bill: this amount is in Russian Roubles. Do you want a scan of this document?

Rob doesn't have anything to do with Thunder's. That's a completely different website.

What proof do I need? None. I don't work for Nature's Accents. You're angry with the wrong person buddy.

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog

So where else should he go for satisfaction, if the emails is completely ignored?

Let's see here:

He lives in Russia.

Take it up with Putin. He seems to be able to solve all of his people's problems.

Mad Dog · 06-09-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Überschwanz

Rob doesn't have anything to do with Thunder's. That's a completely different website.

FYI Über: Rob has an account at Thunder's, his nickname there is 'powerjelq'.

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Originally Posted by Überschwanz

What proof do I need? None. I don't work for Nature's Accents. You're angry with the wrong person buddy.

Well, if you don't work for NA, why then you comment on matter that is outside your competence?

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Originally Posted by Überschwanz

Let's see here:

He lives in Russia.

Take it up with Putin. He seems to be able to solve all of his people's problems.

I don't understand the sense here, but it seems to me it's some kind of an insult.

Überschwanz · 06-09-2006, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog

FYI Über: Rob has an account at Thunder's, his nickname there is 'powerjelq'.

Is he the administrator at Thunder's? Nope.

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog

Well, if you don't work for NA, why then you comment on matter that is outside your competence?

Because you asked me to.

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog

I don't understand the sense here, but it seems to me it's some kind of an insult.

Ding ding ding. Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe,that the package is stuck in customs? My understanding is that these problems are quite frequent in the Russian postal system.

Then again there might be the problem of sending an email in KOI8-R encoding to a U.S. email address: The text is gibberish. If the email really was ignored, that is almost certainly the reason. If he isn't doing it already, then tell your buddy to use Unicode like the rest of the world (unless he only sends emails within Russia).

Finally, if your problem ever does get resolved, I advise you to be polite the next time you need assistance. Making various posts badmouthing your service isn't conducive to getting your issue resolved.

Mad Dog · 06-09-2006, 11:43 PM

Über, I also live in Russia, and also has ordered from NA, my package arrived in a week. However, I had to wait for it for almost a month since NA sent it only in 2.5 week from the date of ordering. I received many parcels and letters from overseas, I have never had any problem with it.

My 'buddy' is very experienced PC user, he know pretty well what does the encoding stands for, and of course used the correct one. It's undoubtedly a neglect.

If the service resembles crap I'm sure that all potential buyers should know that.

Überschwanz · 06-09-2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog

If the service resembles crap I'm sure that all potential buyers should know that.

You can say that if you want but it's just your opinion. Do you have any idea how many more times people have made posts being very very pleased with the service they got?

By the way, my roommate is from Russia. His point of view is that you're lucky if there isn't some hiccup in an important service.

Mad Dog · 06-10-2006, 12:08 AM

Über, I don't doubt many of NA's customers have had positive experiences, but read this thread carefully - many guys also wrote here about this kind of things. I see all these problems was straightened out, and I hope very much this issue will be solved as well.

Cheers to your roommate and Peace unto you.

Mad Dog · 06-15-2006, 08:38 AM

Well, to sum it up.

We tried to contact Nature's Accents representatives through the various ways:

- emailed: support@naturesaccents.com
- called and left a message: 1-800-979-5357: 1-800-979-5357
- PM'ed Rob via this forum

All these attempts was completely ignored.

Hence, I want to warn all the potential buyers. If your package will be lost somewhere on its way, Nature's Accents will never replace your order and you probably will have to contact your Credit Card Issuer and file a charge-back.

All I can say now about the customer support here is WOW, WHAT A GREAT ONE!

With lack of respect,
Mad Dog

Überschwanz · 06-15-2006, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog

Well, to sum it up.

We tried to contact Nature's Accents representatives through the various ways:

- emailed: support@naturesaccents.com
- called and left a message: 1-800-979-5357: 1-800-979-5357
- PM'ed Rob via this forum

All these attempts was completely ignored.

Hence, I want to warn all the potential buyers. If your package will be lost somewhere on its way, Nature's Accents will never replace your order and you probably will have to contact your Credit Card Issuer and file a charge-back.

All I can say now about the customer support here is WOW, WHAT A GREAT ONE!

With lack of respect,
Mad Dog

I'm assuming that you used this page to email them.
http://www.pmdevice.com/contact/

Note the small print: Please include as much information as possible. If your message does not include enough detail for us to help you, you may not receive a reply.

Finally, and I will say this again so that it is very clear, Betterman is not the place to complain about problems with your order.

Mad Dog · 07-02-2006, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Überschwanz

Finally, and I will say this again so that it is very clear, Betterman is not the place to complain about problems with your order.

Yes Über, I see. We had to complain to Bush probably.

Überschwanz · 07-08-2006, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog

Yes Über, I see. We had to complain to Bush probably.

I didn't vote for the man and I think he's a coward, but if you think you can badmouth America by bashing Bush instead then you should probably find something better to do with your time. You have to understand that we Americans are used to it and don't give a rat's ass what people in your mindset think. I think Colin Powell said it best to the French president: "We may not be the world's oldest country, but we are the world's oldest democracy."

This isn't an American thing, but I don't like it when somebody pisses me off and demands my help at the same time.

Mad Dog · 07-11-2006, 09:23 PM

Lol, Über, you lead the conversation to politics now. I haven't tried to insult or offend somebody, just tried to show my disenchantments on the 'service' at Nature's Accents.

Cheers.

tarbabee · 07-11-2006, 10:50 PM

I'll just throw in my 2 cents here. While I have not ordered a PM, I did order the Jelq Device from Nature's Accents. I ordered it on Friday, June 30th. I really didn't expect it until later the following week (especially since that Tuesday was the fourth of July).

Imagine my surprise when it arrived on Monday. So I ordered it on Friday and had it the following Monday. Suffice to say, I was very pleased and will gladly order from them again.

Überschwanz · 07-12-2006, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog

Lol, Über, you lead the conversation to politics now. I haven't tried to insult or offend somebody, just tried to show my disenchantments on the 'service' at Nature's Accents.

Cheers.

You aren't familiar with offhand comments are you? I wasn't changing the topic of conversation; I was mocking you. As I said before, let this be a lesson: Don't piss off people when you need their help. Life's much easier that way.

Mad Dog · 07-12-2006, 07:47 AM

I would look at you, Über, if you have been deceived, and if the cheaters refused to talk to you in this occasion whatsoever. By the way, that package hadn't made its way, although it's almost four month since the ordering day.

Okay, point taken, I guess, leaving now.

Mad Dog · 10-11-2006, 03:43 PM

Well in a few month it will be an YEAR (!) from the ordering date, and NO parcel till now! Crargeback wasn't issued by my friend hoping to receive the order.

What would you, guys, say about that shit?

P.S. I hope so much to get a comment on this issue from the Nature's Accents representatives.

Cheers.