Can't stay erect with Jelq-Device.

cypher79 · 07-07-2006, 11:17 AM

Today was my first day with the JelqDevice (after 6 weeks of manual jelqing of course), and I could barely stay hard, It took me quite a while just to do 100 reps with it, I mean I was going limp after like 3-8 reps, this is with watching hardcore porn too.

When I was manual jelqing I had the opposite of this, I would have to stop several times through the workout because I was getting too hard, and I wouldnt even really need to watch porn.

I really dont want to go back to manual jelqing because I've paid for the device and want to use it, and also my hands ache with manual jelqing.

I've got about a months worth of Pro-Enhance patches left in my drawer so I was thinking these could help, but when I used the other 2 months worth before, I found that my sex drive was too high with them, and I always just ending up masturbating when attempting a PE session.

Any advice with this would be much appreciated, thanks in advance.

10 · 07-07-2006, 03:32 PM

I would almost say this is psychological. Since you've experienced a reduction in staying power while using the device, everytime you get it out your likely to have this same effect.

Think of it this way. The jelq device is far superior to manual hand jelqing. This of course is strictly my opinion but I'm sure several on this forum will agree with me. Ironically, I have the opposite effect. I've been using the JD now for, well, let's just say I'm now on my 3rd one. When I try to manually hand jelq, I go a bit soft.

Try doing just a few at a time until your tool gets used to it. It's a bit stressful for the penis to be hit with the jelq device so go slow with it. I think what you need is one solid workout with it and you'll penis will do a huge turnaround.

Betterman · 07-08-2006, 02:28 AM

I've used the device about 7 months now. I would say 100 reps is about right for just starting the JD. The same thing happened to me at first. After a week or so your stamina will get better. It's like a "shock" thing. All I did was firm up abit then continue. Try to get your firmness to the point, where when you do your rep your glans swells dramatically. 80 - 85% or so. Even if you need to firm up after every 10 reps or so. You'll get a very thorough workout with fewer reps. Hope this helps.

myonesimus · 07-20-2006, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cypher79

Today was my first day with the JelqDevice (after 6 weeks of manual jelqing of course), and I could barely stay hard, It took me quite a while just to do 100 reps with it, I mean I was going limp after like 3-8 reps, this is with watching hardcore porn too.

When I was manual jelqing I had the opposite of this, I would have to stop several times through the workout because I was getting too hard, and I wouldnt even really need to watch porn.

I really dont want to go back to manual jelqing because I've paid for the device and want to use it, and also my hands ache with manual jelqing.

I've got about a months worth of Pro-Enhance patches left in my drawer so I was thinking these could help, but when I used the other 2 months worth before, I found that my sex drive was too high with them, and I always just ending up masturbating when attempting a PE session.

Any advice with this would be much appreciated, thanks in advance.

1st, I NEVER watch porn when I Jelq, only afterward to keep engorged and really make the workout pay off. Are you warming up properly? I should hope so if you've been doing jelqing for 6 weeks. Is your cock spotted?

I've found that warming up for 5-10 minutes with a heating pad and then sitting on the edge of the bed and using the Jelqdevice works best for me in keeping the blood in.

What also works is to kegel after every rep. After you have jelqed to the glans with the device, when you open the rollers up to start the next jelq and as you are moving the device back to the base or your penis, kegel right then, and that will force more blood to the penis.

I hope this helps. If it doesn't, then yeah it is psychological. Oh yeah... and FUCK Pro-Enhance. Patches are for pussies. A good strong PE routine will eliminate the need for any patches or any viagra type bullshit. However, if you actually have an erectile dysfunction, I apologize. And may God have mercy on your soul....amen.

JonPop · 07-20-2006, 10:04 PM

And thank you Reverend Myonesimus.

10 · 07-21-2006, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by myonesimus

1st, I NEVER watch porn when I Jelq, only afterward to keep engorged and really make the workout pay off. Are you warming up properly? I should hope so if you've been doing jelqing for 6 weeks. Is your cock spotted?

I've found that warming up for 5-10 minutes with a heating pad and then sitting on the edge of the bed and using the Jelqdevice works best for me in keeping the blood in.

What also works is to kegel after every rep. After you have jelqed to the glans with the device, when you open the rollers up to start the next jelq and as you are moving the device back to the base or your penis, kegel right then, and that will force more blood to the penis.

I hope this helps. If it doesn't, then yeah it is psychological. Oh yeah... and FUCK Pro-Enhance. Patches are for pussies. A good strong PE routine will eliminate the need for any patches or any viagra type bullshit. However, if you actually have an erectile dysfunction, I apologize. And may God have mercy on your soul....amen.

I LOVE my JD and won't use my hands anymore (except stretching!!). Anything aside from physical PE is a waste of fucking time..........this includes patches, pills, ROP's and anything else man can conjur up to get a big dick.

As for using the JD, I myself sit on the edge of the bed and kegel in between jelqs and I've never had a problem. Gotten good and thick from the JD alone!!

want8 · 07-21-2006, 02:35 PM

I believe watching porn or anything may be actually distracting you. You are concentrating on the porn flick and not your dick. After a few Jelq's with the JD, remove it and stroke your dick if you need to. I sometimes stroke mine as I am taking the JD back down to the base of my dick, like a strok in between reps. Of course this is what I was doing when I first started using it, now I can get 100 reps, then I pause and stroke a minute or so, then another 100 reps, and so on doing somewhere between 300-500 reps. What they should do is figure out some sort of way to put like a fleshlight type of device between the handles so when you go down each time you are getting a stroke!! Damn I am a genius!!

10 · 07-21-2006, 10:26 PM

want8, do you do 100 reps in one fell swoop or do you take breaks in between? I can't do more than say 25, maybe 30 without my hands getting tired as shit. Any suggestions?

myonesimus · 07-21-2006, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 10

want8, do you do 100 reps in one fell swoop or do you take breaks in between? I can't do more than say 25, maybe 30 without my hands getting tired as shit. Any suggestions?

Yeah, stop being such a PUSSY!

Just kidding. Sometimes I do 50 with the right and then 50 with the left hand.

But since you have trouble even doing 25/ 30, what you can do is use both hands on the right and left side of the JD to cut in half the pressure that each hand takes each jelq. That may help. It also helps to sit on the edge of your chair or bed and jelq down. Then the weight of your arms will help you with each repetition.

If you can do at least 50 in a row that would be good. Then take a 30sec break and do another 50. Then you can rest for a minute or two, stroke your unit lightly, put on some heat, and then do another 50. I used to do 500+ manual jelqs in 100 rep sets, so for me the JD doesn't even make my hands tired. Now after I workout the only thing tired is my willy. Which is how it should be.

You can also try getting one of those hand strengtheners. A company called PowerGrip makes several types that could help you gain some hand strength. Or you can sit down, take a barbell, rest your forearms on your knees and then curl just your hands with the barbell towards you. That will help strengthen your forearms and ultimately the strength/ endurance of your grip. I'd try 3 sets of ten with an empty barbell to start. You'll feel a difference immediately.

Hope this helps and happy jelqing!

Betterman · 07-22-2006, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by myonesimus

Sometimes I do 50 with the right and then 50 with the left hand.

I've found that 30 reps works best for me. I used to push myself to the 50 mark. Then I realized I get a better firmness and overall workout with the 30 mark. I also do my routine in the morning and in the evening. For a total of 1000 throughout the day. Each sitting takes around 1/2 to 45 min. to reach 500 reps a session. Also got to mention I had to callus up a few spots on my hands. Even though I use my hands for a living.

myonesimus · 07-26-2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Betterman

I've found that 30 reps works best for me. I used to push myself to the 50 mark. Then I realized I get a better firmness and overall workout with the 30 mark. I also do my routine in the morning and in the evening. For a total of 1000 throughout the day. Each sitting takes around 1/2 to 45 min. to reach 500 reps a session. Also got to mention I had to callus up a few spots on my hands. Even though I use my hands for a living.

I'm guessing you do the really slow intense powerjelqs? Everybody's different. If 30 works well for you then by all means JELQ ON BROTHA!

I do 5 sets of 100 with the JD in the evening. Then 200 or so in the morning.

Lately I've had to take a break as I seriously chaffed my willy doing some stretches.

I didn't even notice it until I started sweating one day and I felt a stinging sensation

. I'm taking two weeks off and I'll be starting up again next week. I think stretching in the shower messed me up. I never had a problem with stretches pulling my skin that bad until I did that a couple of times. Oh well, you live and you learn!

want8 · 07-27-2006, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 10

want8, do you do 100 reps in one fell swoop or do you take breaks in between? I can't do more than say 25, maybe 30 without my hands getting tired as shit. Any suggestions?

I do 100 at a time. Hands do get a little tired, but I use my right hand holding the JD at the very end, gripping both handles with the right hand, and the left hand sort on the left side gripping both handles. This gives you the use of both hands and I do pretty slow intense pulls. I may not be going quite as slow as you are, but I move pretty slow. By the time I do 300 reps like this, my hands are pretty damn tired, but I will muscle through it. Speaking of which, I got to go Jelq now!

wantItThicker · 07-27-2006, 05:27 PM

For you guys that are long term JD users and have also had success .. how many off days a week do you prefer? Workout every second day or just take weekends off?

Personally, I cannot spare the time for more than 200 reps a morning with the JD and that seems to be enough to make me sore anyway. For myself it seems that doing more than 3 days in a row is counterproductive, it actually begins to look skinnier and I have a hard time getting a good workout until I rest a day or so.

myonesimus · 07-27-2006, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wantItThicker

For you guys that are long term JD users and have also had success .. how many off days a week do you prefer? Workout every second day or just take weekends off?

Personally, I cannot spare the time for more than 200 reps a morning with the JD and that seems to be enough to make me sore anyway. For myself it seems that doing more than 3 days in a row is counterproductive, it actually begins to look skinnier and I have a hard time getting a good workout until I rest a day or so.

It all depends on your body. If doing three days in a row seems counterproductive, then obviously you need to change your routine. Not DRASTICALLY or anything, just small adjustments until you see some improvement.

Are you warming down properly? If not, then this could have a counterproductive effect as well, by not helping the circulation. One of the things that I do to benefit the most from my JD sessions is to use a penis pump afterward for about 5-10 minutes. You can even do your warm down then, just wrap a heating pad around the tube. Then I keep a cock ring on for about 30 minutes to an hour, and sometimes overnight at low tension. Or you can try "Dash Wraps" as well: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=8995

I do 200 with the JD in the morning simply because my schedule allows it. If you do nightly sessions of 200 really good jelqs that should be good. Perhaps you could try a 2 days on 2 days off schedule? or a 2 on 1 off. That's what I do. You may find that a different schedule works better for you. As always: LISTEN TO YOUR BODY!

One thing I also use is the "DINGER ZINGER". It produces a small current through your penis that aids in circulation. You wear it all the time. I've noticed an increase in my flaccid hang, and I've noticed that I hang fuller after my JD sessions as well. If you want one just hit me up at myonesimus@yahoo.com. It's only $10.

Happy jelqing!

Überschwanz · 07-27-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by myonesimus

One thing I also use is the "DINGER ZINGER". It produces a small current through your penis that aids in circulation. You wear it all the time. I've noticed an increase in my flaccid hang, and I've noticed that I hang fuller after my JD sessions as well. If you want one just hit me up at myonesimus@yahoo.com. It's only $10.

With all due respect myonesimus, this sounds exactly like the ROP which is a clear scam.

myonesimus · 07-27-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Überschwanz

With all due respect myonesimus, this sounds exactly like the ROP which is a clear scam.

Yeah, I thought so too when I first read about it. Being an electronics engineer, I decided to try it out for myself. I researched the properties of various metals and their electric potential, then made one and tested the voltages and currents of various combinations of metals. I was able to produce .8-1.1 VDC with the device.

Uber, I will say this though, if you are skeptical about things like magnetic therapy, I see why this sounds like a bunch of BS to you too. But the science behind this one is fairly sound. If you push an electric current through human tissue, it prompts a response. It's the same principle in the machine that Chiropractors/ Physical Therapists use on your muscles, its just the current/ voltage isn't as high with the ring. But if you take a low voltage continuously over a long period of time, you will see results. It's the same claim about magnetic bracelets and necklaces, except it supposedely uses electro-magnetic waves to produce the same effect.

But like anything, each individual responds differently. If you want, I'll add you to the BETA testers list and send you one for free. Just email me your address at: myonesimus@yahoo.com. All addresses are kept confidential. What do you have to lose? I use it with the JD, and I've noticed a difference.

BTW, as a warning to any who might read this, don't go get two magnets and clamp them on your johnson.

Überschwanz · 07-28-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by myonesimus

Yeah, I thought so too when I first read about it. Being an electronics engineer, I decided to try it out for myself. I researched the properties of various metals and their electric potential, then made one and tested the voltages and currents of various combinations of metals. I was able to produce .8-1.1 VDC with the device.

I didn't say it couldn't produce a voltage. Everybody knows it does. I was hinting at the fact that the current doesn't do anything physiologically meaningful.

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Originally Posted by myonesimus

Uber, I will say this though, if you are skeptical about things like magnetic therapy, I see why this sounds like a bunch of BS to you too. But the science behind this one is fairly sound. If you push an electric current through human tissue, it prompts a response.

No...it does not. Think about this.

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Scientific tests of magnetic thearapy for various disorders have concluded that there is no health benefit from magnetic fields in those cases[1][2]

Criticism of these products focuses on scientific facts about magnets, including that the typical magnet used is not strong enough to have a lasting effect on muscle tissue, bones, blood vessels, or organs. Some people working in physics research work for hours per day with their whole body immersed in magnetic fields far stronger than those from the bracelets, and (if they observe precautions regarding pacemakers) there is no evidence they are more or less healthy than their peers.

No magnet healing product manufacturers have demonstrated scientifically that they actually achieve what they claim, and most cannot even agree on what exactly the magnetic fields do. Some claim that the magnets help to circulate the blood by some interaction with the iron in hemoglobin, a major component of red blood cells. However, in its ionised form, iron is not ferromagnetic and therefore cannot be affected by magnets. [2]

Still others claim that the magnets can restore the body's theorised electromagnetic energy balance. There are also claims that the south pole of a magnet acts differently on the body than the north pole.

Many of the websites that provide information and resources promoting the benefits of magnetic therapy belong to individuals and companies that profit from the sale of magnetic therapy products.

That last one's a real surprise.

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But like anything, each individual responds differently. If you want, I'll add you to the BETA testers list and send you one for free. Just email me your address at: myonesimus@yahoo.com. All addresses are kept confidential. What do you have to lose? I use it with the JD, and I've noticed a difference.

No thank you. I'm a scientifically minded person and I could have told you many of these things without having to look them up. I'd prefer not to be a shill.

slickwillie · 08-01-2006, 02:46 AM

I just watched the Hulk movie for the first time the other day, so I'll stick to the old school way of doing things and leave you "scientists" alone! :)
I prefer computer science, which usually drives the electrical engineers nuts that I work with...

slimthug · 08-01-2006, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by slickwillie

I just watched the Hulk movie for the first time the other day, so I'll stick to the old school way of doing things and leave you "scientists" alone! :)
I prefer computer science, which usually drives the electrical engineers nuts that I work with...

I wonder if the hulks dick get big too..

Bigdz2123 · 08-02-2006, 04:47 PM

just watch a nice porn. It helps me every time. i never have that problem since i started watching it during my workout.

myonesimus · 08-02-2006, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigdz2123

just watch a nice porn. It helps me every time. i never have that problem since i started watching it during my workout.

Yeah, that'll work. Concentrate on watching porn while you workout, that way you can take a chunk out of your dick when the JD slips off because you weren't paying attention.

Or, watch porn while you use the JD so that you get too erect and bust a blood vessel while you watch Tera Patrick's pussy get demolished.

Watching porn while you use the JD is like benching while watching TV. You couldn't really concentrate on getting the most out of your workout. Watching TV and exercising just don't go together IMHO.

Any other views on this? I watch porn AFTERWARD to keep the blood in the penis longer to get the most effective workout.