Need Help. No Gains in 2 months.

Brock Landers · 08-21-2006, 07:16 PM

My routine is to power jelq 200 reps and then wear my PM.

The first two weeks i wore the PM device with an average of 3.5 hours a day.
Then i started PJ and I gained half an inch fully erect.
Thats 7 to 7.5 in about 2 weeks.

Now after nearly 2 1/2 months with this routine, I have been stuck at 7.5. I will only be able to continue this routine for another week, as saturday I leave for college and I will be in a triple. I could probably PJ in the bathroom and then let my roomate (after one moves out) know about my extender but I fear that i may have to slow down with PE and lose my gains or only be stuck at 7.5. I hope I can still atleast PJ.

Anyway, I need some help. Is there anything I can do to increase my gains or something. Ive been stuck for a while but I know if i could keep up with my progres (Im averaging 5.5 hours with Extender for the month of august) for another couple of months I could reach my goal of 8 inches.

Please help.

slimthug · 08-21-2006, 07:59 PM

The half inch that you got in two weeks is whats known as newbie gains. Just about everybody will start seeing gains rapidly at first, and then start slowing down as your body get used to that routine and doesnt need to adapt.

I'm all about manual stretches, so you might want to try doing some of those also along w/ your PM. You may also want to up the about of jelqs you do.

Another route you can go is to stop doing PE all together, for a couple weeks or even longer to decondition your dick. Then when you start back up, you may experience more newbie gains.

Don't get discouraged though, a lot of people have spells for months where they don't gain...its normal. You can stick to what your doing now, or either increase your workout, or take a deconditioning break...Any way you go I think you will be fine.

chang · 08-21-2006, 08:17 PM

get yourself one of these:

http://www.penisplus.com/

or one of these:

http://www.autoextender.com/autoadh.html

I have the penis plus. It's a traction device like the PM, except it doesnt use rigid rods, which means you can wear it under your clothes much more discreetly and comfortably, you can sit down, get up and walk around with it, etc.

I have a PM but only wear it when I'm at home and basically in bed watching tv. Otherwise, when I'm out and about at work throughout the day, I wear the penis plus.

It uses a noose which is less comfortable than the PM, but works well. I unstrap it about every hour or so to massage the head, do a few manual jelqs, and re-strap. I do this in a bathroom stall. I use a little toilet papere folded over itself and wrapped around the head under the noose for comfort.

Thanks to this, I have been stretching for about 7 - 9 hours a day for the last 3 weeks. It's too soon to tell, but I think I am already seeing results, I'm now a few millimeters unders 8" BPEL. My goal is 8.5" - 9".

Anyway, this would allow you to keep up with your PE without having to tell anyone, unless you're one of those dudes who likes to walk around nekkid in front of his roomates ;)

Good luck, and if you get the penis plus, let me know how it goes for you. I'm very happy with mine.

Brock Landers · 08-21-2006, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by slimthug

You can stick to what your doing now, or either increase your workout, or take a deconditioning break...Any way you go I think you will be fine.

If i take some time off for deconditioning, will I lose the half inch gain that I have now, or have I pretty much cemented it in now?

Brock Landers · 08-21-2006, 09:52 PM

Hey Chang,
Thanks for the websites. The penis plus seems to be just what I need but the other one is kind of iffy to me. I was hoping it would be cheaper tho.

It excites me to think that I could stretch all through my classes and not even have to worry about doing anything in the room, besides jelqing in the the bathroom.

Thanks and keep me posted on your results with the penis plus. looks like you and i will have the same routine.

PS. I read in another thread that your gf doesnt know. Mine found out about it and she was completely understanding and supportive. She was only upset because I didnt tell her, thats all. Plus if you tell her, you can wear it around her, therefore increasing your PM time. Thats how I got to 5.5 hours this month.

slimthug · 08-22-2006, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock Landers

If i take some time off for deconditioning, will I lose the half inch gain that I have now, or have I pretty much cemented it in now?

Its likely cemented..I don't think taking a couple weeks off would hurt...I just started back after a two week break and I hadn't lost anything.

rocky6535 · 08-24-2006, 04:40 AM

Has anyone else tried either of these devises? I like the idea of being able to wear them to class too, since school is back in session and currently dominating my entire life again.

chang · 08-31-2006, 06:10 AM

An ADS is definitely the way to go. Be aware that the penis plus uses a noose so it can be potentially dangerous if you put to much pressure on, tighten it too much, and/or leave it on too long. You have to check in on it at least once an hour for the first couple weeks until getting conditoned.

Also, I wrap the head with some good soft toilet paper. I tear off three squares, fold it lengthwise then wrap. Checking on it often is critical, while it might sound like a pain in the ass, its not really a big deal. At work i drink a lot of water and go to the bathroom about once an hour anyway. I unstrap, massage spme fresh blood into the head with some dry jelqs, re-wrap with fresh t.p. and strap back in.

As for price, yes, any product you buy will be expensive, yet the ADS is a pretty simple concept compared to a PM type extender. Thundersplace has a tutorial on how to make your own for basically free, and I'm sure if you're handy you can come up with your own design. The advantage beyond cost is that you can make something more comfortable and safer, but you will need to spend more time perfecting it.

As for your plateau, I think PE is very much like other aspects of physical training, in that your body will quickly get accustomed to a routine. You have to keep your body guessing, by varying both the type and the intensity of your workouts. Also, the timetable. Try changing things up more. Take more time off, followed by a more intense session than usual, then go back to your routine. If you've ever lifted weights or trained cardio, you know what I mean.

Change the time of day you do it, maybe split up your workout in to smaller sets throughout the day. Instead of doing 200 at once, do 150 in the moring, 100 at night... Make sure you do not hurt yourself, less is always more.

So anyway, glad to help. Good luck with school, and if you choose to make your own ADS let us know how it goes. And, defintely take it slow at first, the head of the penis is very intricate and delicate, so start with only a few hours per day at first, yake breaks between the hours you have it on, and work your way up slowly.

fuze · 07-27-2007, 04:42 PM

chang you sound awfully alot like a vendor.

JonPop · 07-27-2007, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fuze

chang you sound awfully alot like a vendor.

fuze; What in Chang's post would cause you to make a statement like that?
Chang has been a member of BetterMan for over 14 months. If he was a vendor, we would have booted him long ago. You, on the other hand.... first post, make an accusation???