09-06-2006, 05:51 PM
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| Prostate health with kegels Guys,
You've got to kegel. I had prostate surgery in early March for an enlarged prostate. It was no fun at all. That followed nearly two years of monitoring and using various drugs to shrink the prostate, all to no avail. The doctor recommended surgery, saying I had a huge prostate (would that he could have said that about my penis). I had a difficult recovery (won't give the details here).
Now, in late June, my GP (regular doc) ordered a colonoscopy. (Yeah, they got done with poking and prodding my dick, now they wanted to explore the back side.) However, by that time I had been religiously doing kegels (since May) and taking vitamin supplements that Uber suggested. When I awoke from anasthesia, the doctor informed me that there were no problems with the colon (good news) and that he had checked my prostate and found it to be normal size (incredible news).
The only thing that was different was performing the kegels and the better nutrition. (The surgery cut away nothing of the prostate, only the urethra by cutting away a small amount from the inside.) All I can say is that I believe the increased blood flow to the area of the prostate helped to reduce the size of that troublesome gland. My regret is that I had not started this before the surgery and all the prostate problems.
Younger guys (I'm 50), take note and save yourselves some pain and problems.
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09-06-2006, 07:31 PM
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| Thanks czechitout. Kegels are very helpful exercises.
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09-10-2006, 12:34 PM
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| I have a PSA test done quarterly and the "digital" exam every six months because I am on testosterone replacement therapy for low testosterone. I have gotten prostatitis twice and had to go on 2 months of Cipro and Levaquin to kill the bacteria. My urologist told me that it is important to drink lots of water, ejaculate often, preform kegels and as an added measure perform a prostate massage to milk the prostate and remove stubborn bacteria. He even recommended a "wand" from www.maleproformance.com. I am not involved with the company in any way shape or form. I just thought I would pass on the information I have received.
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09-10-2006, 03:55 PM
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| Hey 789, great to see you back and posting. I have been off testosterone therapy for a few months, I wanted to cycle for awhile so I wouldn't get these sorts of problems. Thanks for the info.
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09-10-2006, 04:05 PM
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| Not to go off topic too badly. The testosterone replacement therapy can also cause weight gain, hunger, which inturn can trigger high blood pressure and high heart rate.
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09-10-2006, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by czechitout Guys,
You've got to kegel. I had prostate surgery in early March for an enlarged prostate. It was no fun at all. That followed nearly two years of monitoring and using various drugs to shrink the prostate, all to no avail. The doctor recommended surgery, saying I had a huge prostate (would that he could have said that about my penis). I had a difficult recovery (won't give the details here).
Now, in late June, my GP (regular doc) ordered a colonoscopy. (Yeah, they got done with poking and prodding my dick, now they wanted to explore the back side.) However, by that time I had been religiously doing kegels (since May) and taking vitamin supplements that Uber suggested. When I awoke from anasthesia, the doctor informed me that there were no problems with the colon (good news) and that he had checked my prostate and found it to be normal size (incredible news).
The only thing that was different was performing the kegels and the better nutrition. (The surgery cut away nothing of the prostate, only the urethra by cutting away a small amount from the inside.) All I can say is that I believe the increased blood flow to the area of the prostate helped to reduce the size of that troublesome gland. My regret is that I had not started this before the surgery and all the prostate problems.
Younger guys (I'm 50), take note and save yourselves some pain and problems.
czechitout | Czechitout, tell me, did your Trans Uretral Resection of the prostate stop your flow of semen at all? |
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09-10-2006, 06:32 PM
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| 789, testosterone therapy may also cause prostatic enlargement and prostatic cancer, so do take care brother. |
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09-10-2006, 08:00 PM
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| Adamander,
Yes it did, now I can only "cum" retrograde, i.e, into the bladder. That really sucks, after seeing what Uber can now do and wishing I could really shoot a good one. At this point, I still have to see the urologist and would like to ask him about the current size of the prostate, since he informed me that I would simply live with an enlarged one with no obvious problems since the TURP. But now it seems I'm back to normal size and wish I had started with the Kegels well before the surgery. Regrets are that I might have avoided all the pain and mess I went through with a tough recover. Just some thoughts. |
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09-10-2006, 09:32 PM
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| czechitout, I know what you mean about "tough recovery". I had surgery down through my dick to remove an abnormal mass between my bladder and prostate in March. Retorgrade? Hey, no problem about getting head, she won't have to swollow. When you have retrograde do you still get the orgasm feeling?
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09-11-2006, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by adamander 789, testosterone therapy may also cause prostatic enlargement and prostatic cancer, so do take care brother. | Yes, 2nd year is the big year to watch. I am in my second year and havent had any prostate problems at all quite the contrary. It is also more risky to be on the bi-weekly shot as opposed to the gel or even the crappy patch.
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09-12-2006, 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JonPop Hey 789, great to see you back and posting. I have been off testosterone therapy for a few months, I wanted to cycle for awhile so I wouldn't get these sorts of problems. Thanks for the info. | Did you just quit cold turkey?? Not the best idea if you've been on for a while... If you've been on TRT for a good part of a year, your natural production of testosterone is nil. Quitting cold turkey will just make you suffer all the symptoms of low test after a month or two... and because your body hasn't produced much, if any natural test, after a month or so of quitting your test levels will be much much lower than when you first started TRT. If your doctor had you do this without hcg or clomid therapy then i suggest you find a new doctor. |
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09-12-2006, 01:54 PM
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| JP,
Oh, yes, I still have all the orgasm. In fact, I have been following Uber's advice on how to cum like a porn star, and though I have nothing to show for it, I notice that there are stronger and more numerous shooting sensations. I used to be able to shoot about 5 times, medium amount of cum, but now I can feel the shooting feeling up to 8 times. More intense feeling, no visible results. The only result is that I now ooze pre-cum in large amounts. Previously, I had never noticed this. But now, wearing the PM, masturbating, etc., in a few minutes I find that I can't control all the juices flowing. It can be embarrassing wearing the PM and so I have to make a run to the john frequently just to keep things clean. Maybe it's my body just trying to compensate for the loss of external ejaculation
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09-12-2006, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by czechitout JP,
Oh, yes, I still have all the orgasm. In fact, I have been following Uber's advice on how to cum like a porn star, and though I have nothing to show for it, I notice that there are stronger and more numerous shooting sensations. I used to be able to shoot about 5 times, medium amount of cum, but now I can feel the shooting feeling up to 8 times. More intense feeling, no visible results. The only result is that I now ooze pre-cum in large amounts. Previously, I had never noticed this. But now, wearing the PM, masturbating, etc., in a few minutes I find that I can't control all the juices flowing. It can be embarrassing wearing the PM and so I have to make a run to the john frequently just to keep things clean. Maybe it's my body just trying to compensate for the loss of external ejaculation
czechitout | I sometimes find that I have a little bit of pre-ejaculate buildup while wearing the PM. It's nothing I worry about.
I'm glad to see you are getting some results from my advice czechitout.
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09-12-2006, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sikdogg Did you just quit cold turkey?? Not the best idea if you've been on for a while... If you've been on TRT for a good part of a year, your natural production of testosterone is nil. Quitting cold turkey will just make you suffer all the symptoms of low test after a month or two... and because your body hasn't produced much, if any natural test, after a month or so of quitting your test levels will be much much lower than when you first started TRT. If your doctor had you do this without hcg or clomid therapy then i suggest you find a new doctor. |
Oh I havent quit at all. I was just hoping my body would begin to produce testosterone again if I did cut back. My urologist said 80% of the time it wont. I have taken clomid in the past but only to produce huge cum loads and huge repeat cum loads but not for TRT. But my testosterone levels were very high at that time and I was horny ALL the time. I took the liquid (yuk) but will buy the pills off the internet if there is a good connection. I was a bit concerned about my estrogen levels but when checked they were in range.
Any advice you can give is much appreciated.
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Originally Posted by czechitout JP,
Oh, yes, I still have all the orgasm. In fact, I have been following Uber's advice on how to cum like a porn star, and though I have nothing to show for it, I notice that there are stronger and more numerous shooting sensations. I used to be able to shoot about 5 times, medium amount of cum, but now I can feel the shooting feeling up to 8 times. More intense feeling, no visible results. The only result is that I now ooze pre-cum in large amounts. Previously, I had never noticed this. But now, wearing the PM, masturbating, etc., in a few minutes I find that I can't control all the juices flowing. It can be embarrassing wearing the PM and so I have to make a run to the john frequently just to keep things clean. Maybe it's my body just trying to compensate for the loss of external ejaculation
czechitout | Precum is produced by the Cowpers Gland and in your case was uneffected by the surgery. I have a friend that had DiVinci surgery and now at 44 has no prostate. He has orgasms but no ejaculations but he produces a huge amount of precum. It took him two years to get his erections back although he still leaks urine on occassion.
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09-13-2006, 04:15 PM
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| Whoa 789,
He still leaks urine? What a shame! I'm glad I don't have those problems. Uber, indeed thanks so much man for the advice on nutrition and being willing to show us what is possible with ejaculation. I didn't want to say it before, but what the hell, I'm feeling I can really say things on this forum without upsetting a whole lot of people. I know that I am ejaculating a lot more because it does eventually find its way through the penis when I urinate. I have noticed when taking a leak after ejaculation just how much more "cum" I am producing. I am glad you have only a "little amount of pre-ejaculate" building up, but when I wear the PM, I find that I will ooze several large beads of pre-cum every 30 minutes or so. I wear the PM per your advice, outside the shorts, so the first time, I found my pants getting visibly wet. I could keep the PM well hidden under the pants, but when spots and wet blotches first starting showing up on the pants, my co-workers thought I was having problems with my aim in the john. It just takes a little attention to keep things dry and clean. I can't complain, because at the same time, I feel a nice sensation for about an hour and a half as I slowly leak. Any way, that's how it's been for me. Your right, slovaks rule.
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09-16-2006, 12:01 PM
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| I thought (and I am probably wrong) that the prostate made up your cum (minus the sperm portion). So without a prostate how can you produce cum? And if it is a retrograde ejaculation with the real deal, why cant that "flow" be diverted to the penis? I know that the Cowpers Gland produces precum so I can see why guys without prostates still have that.
When I see my friend today Im gonna ask him if he gets a cum induced urine after an orgasm.
Thanks for sharing your story.
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| Prostate Health I found this article very informative. With myself approaching 40, I thought I would do some fact finding. DoctorYourself.com - Prostate Health
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