Water Pumping - Page 2

Loki · 02-16-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Überschwanz

Maybe you need a narrower tube.

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Originally Posted by sikdogg

You need to get one of those big silicone rings to attach to the opening of the tube to get a better seal... my nuts used to get sucked up also until i got the silicone ring.

The tube I have, I can fill, I think it's because of the thick wide flange at the base of the tube that gets me, if I'm not just so, then

Überschwanz · 02-16-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Loki

The tube I have, I can fill, I think it's because of the thick wide flange at the base of the tube that gets me, if I'm not just so, then

If you can properly fill the tube, it should actually be a challenge to get a ball in there. Accidents shouldn't happen.

JonPop · 02-16-2007, 05:33 PM

Oh yes they do, this usually happens to me when I first fill the tube with water and then increase the vacuum. I think the water acts as a lube and will start to pull your testicle into the tube. I pinch the scrotum skin and pull down when evacuating but it will still happen.
Sometimes I just have to stand up, reposition everything and start over. Of course I use a 2" tube.

Überschwanz · 02-16-2007, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JonPop

Oh yes they do, this usually happens to me when I first fill the tube with water and then increase the vacuum. I think the water acts as a lube and will start to pull your testicle into the tube. I pinch the scrotum skin and pull down when evacuating but it will still happen.
Sometimes I just have to stand up, reposition everything and start over. Of course I use a 2" tube.

I use a 2 1/4" tube, but I only fill up the base. Maybe it's because of my nuts.

Loki · 02-16-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Überschwanz

If you can properly fill the tube, it should actually be a challenge to get a ball in there. Accidents shouldn't happen.

I think the turkey neck has something to do with it, I've been doing alot of sack stretching trying to bust the neck and I have been holding the nuts back while jelqing too, wish I had started that before I started getting longer.

JonPop · 02-16-2007, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Loki

I think the turkey neck has something to do with it, I've been doing alot of sack stretching trying to bust the neck and I have been holding the nuts back while jelqing too, wish I had started that before I started getting longer.

Could be, I too have "Turky Neck" from hell.

Loki · 02-16-2007, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JonPop

Oh yes they do, this usually happens to me when I first fill the tube with water and then increase the vacuum. I think the water acts as a lube and will start to pull your testicle into the tube. I pinch the scrotum skin and pull down when evacuating but it will still happen.
Sometimes I just have to stand up, reposition everything and start over. Of course I use a 2" tube.

Yeah,
When the wife walked in on me that's just what I needed to do, my tube is 1 3/4" ID X 9" long, with a big ass flange at the base. It was sooooo hard not to sound like Mickey Mouse with the left nut acting up.

JonPop · 03-21-2007, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sikdogg

You need to get one of those big silicone rings to attach to the opening of the tube to get a better seal... my nuts used to get sucked up also until i got the silicone ring.

Hey dogg, where did you order the silicon ring? Will it fit the tubes from LA pumps? They don't offer the rings on their site. Thanks.

Betterman · 03-22-2007, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JonPop

Hey dogg, where did you order the silicon ring? Will it fit the tubes from LA pumps? They don't offer the rings on their site. Thanks.

I noticed this site had them when I purchased the 2-stage cylinder. Hope this is what your looking for.

https://www.pumptoys.com/prod/flexring.php

Betterman · 03-22-2007, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JonPop

Hey! Anybody tried water pumping yet? How about you Betterman? Dogg? Loki? If you have, please post your experience.

I'll be able to post my experience in a couple of weeks. I want to try it with my 2-stage cylinder. My hand pump doesn't do well with that one. It may be getting a faulty check valve. With a cylinder of that volume it has a hard time sucking out new air.

I'll let you know when I use that electric pump with it.

sikdogg · 03-22-2007, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JonPop

Hey dogg, where did you order the silicon ring? Will it fit the tubes from LA pumps? They don't offer the rings on their site. Thanks.

I got mine from ebay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Universal-Silico...QQcmdZViewItem

curly · 03-22-2007, 06:09 PM

Is it better to use a cylinder that is too little or one that is too large?

Loki · 03-22-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by curly

Is it better to use a cylinder that is too little or one that is too large?

Hey Curly,
Get a tube that is 1/4" bigger than your erect girth, unless you are looking for length gains, then you would go with a tube that is the same size of your erect girth.

curly · 03-22-2007, 07:47 PM

Last year maybe June I got the 1 and three fourths and 9 in. long. After I used it 3 or 4 months I went with the 2 in. and 9 in. long. I want length.

Loki · 03-22-2007, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by curly

Last year maybe June I got the 1 and three fourths and 9 in. long. After I used it 3 or 4 months I went with the 2 in. and 9 in. long. I want length.

Then go with the smaller tube for length and do a stretching before you pump up.

JonPop · 03-22-2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sikdogg

I got mine from ebay....

Thanks dogg. Went ahead and ordered one. Any special trick to attaching this? Does it just slip onto the base flang? Any problems with using this in water? Thanks, bro.

rocky6535 · 03-23-2007, 12:25 AM

Why isn't a regular tube just as good as a small one for length gains? If you want both length and girth gains, should you just buy two tubes for two different purposes and modify your routine?

sikdogg · 03-23-2007, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JonPop

Thanks dogg. Went ahead and ordered one. Any special trick to attaching this? Does it just slip onto the base flang? Any problems with using this in water? Thanks, bro.

NO special trick... it just fits over the flange on the bottom of the tube.

sikdogg · 03-23-2007, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by rocky6535

Why isn't a regular tube just as good as a small one for length gains? If you want both length and girth gains, should you just buy two tubes for two different purposes and modify your routine?

For length... what's important is that you are able to pack the cylinder. Once you do this, the vaccum forces can no loger expand you penis so the force is directed along the length as it pulls.

For girth, you need room to expand so a larger diameter cylinder is necessary. Once you are able to pack the cylinger, it is time to buy a larger one.

rocky6535 · 03-24-2007, 06:56 AM

I can't currently pack the tube that I have. There is a lot of room for growth in it, so it is probably good for girth (which is all I assumed pumping was good for). Should I consider buying a second tube that I can pack and using it for length? If so, what would a good routine be that incorporates both tubes? BTW, length is a higher priority than girth for me right now.

sikdogg · 03-24-2007, 07:44 PM

I wouldn't focus too much on length work thru pumping as it's just not that efficient... manual stretching or hanging should work much much better.

Überschwanz · 03-25-2007, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sikdogg

I wouldn't focus too much on length work thru pumping as it's just not that efficient... manual stretching or hanging should work much much better.

I agree with sikdogg.

Betterman · 03-25-2007, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sikdogg

For length... what's important is that you are able to pack the cylinder. Once you do this, the vaccum forces can no loger expand you penis so the force is directed along the length as it pulls.

For girth, you need room to expand so a larger diameter cylinder is necessary. Once you are able to pack the cylinger, it is time to buy a larger one.

I have known individuals that actually increment thru 2 or 3 tubes for their workout. For instance, they will start from a tube they fill for length, for a time. Then, step up to a slightly larger tube for expansion and minimal length. Then, for the last they would use a 2-stage for scrotum expansion. You would be looking at a minimum of 1.5 hour workout though. I can't say if permanent gains were achieved or not, or at what time frame. I will say from a proven medical stand point. That tension, done consistently does work over time. I guess the key here would be TIME.

rocky6535 · 03-25-2007, 02:38 AM

I usually spend more than that each time because I pump in between PJ sets. I think the pumping makes it fun and the time flies by. I just want to maximize the efficiency of my workouts. It seems like the consensus is that pumping for length is inefficient, so the time and effort may be better dedicated to focusing on girth.

Betterman · 03-25-2007, 02:43 AM

I just want to make it clear. That pumping shouldn't replace physical exercising. FYI.

Loki · 03-25-2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Betterman

I just want to make it clear. That pumping shouldn't replace physical exercising. FYI.

I second what Betterman said. I think that the money I spent on PE, the pump has been the best bang for the buck, but we all respond differently.

I have noticed that I can track much better what I gain. I marked the outside of the tube for refrence, since I've been pumping I have gained 3/8" in length "fully pumped" I haven't measured outside the pump, but at this point it isn't too important to me.

I think with doing jelqs and pumping to hyperexpansion between jelq sets is paying off.

bear · 03-26-2007, 04:28 AM

Pumping with water has changed my PE sessions forever.

In fact, I've changed my routine completey:

I as doing:

10 min warm up
15 min stretching
15 min jelqing
50 x kegels
10 min regular pumping
10 min warm down

Now I do:

(whatever time I feel like lying in the hot tub as warm up)
10 min water pumping (penis) + at least 100 x kegels
10 min jelqing
10 min water pumping (penis and testicles) + at least 100 x kegels
5 min jelqing + 5 min balljelqing
10 min water pumping (penis) + at least 100 x kegels
10 min jelqing
5 min ball massage
10 min regular pumping with condom leaving the head uncovered (head exercise)
(whatever time I feel like lying in the hot tub as warm down)

I don't stretch anymore but he's always longer than average

After each training session my dick is one super fat daddy.