Old 11-20-2006, 03:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I think somebody on here mentioned something about pumping with water, awhile back, but I couldn't find the post.

I find this, (water pumping) to be a total delight.
I can't see how this would work in the shower as you wouldn't be able to submerge the tube and you would ruin your pump, so to water pump, you must be in the tub.

WATER PUMPING:

While I am running a HOT bath, I use Enlargel to work up an erection. I use the Gel to pump with as, I believe, the vacuum really helps with the absorption of the Enlargel and the clean up of the tube is very easy.
I get a good seal and pump to very low HG, maybe 1-2 in.hg. Just enough so the tube doesn't fall off.
I get in the tub, with the hose and pump still attached to the tube, being careful not to get the pump body wet. I'll sit for a few minutes while everything warms up, maybe do a couple small pumps to get everything re-stretched out.
I then pull the scrotum sack away from the base of the tube to break the seal slightly while holding the tube with the other hand. I let in just enough water to cover half the glans. (You may have to slightly let the vacuum off to be able to break the seal)
When I have the desired amount of water in the tube, I'll go ahead and slowly bring the vacuum up to 4-5hg and then I'll remove the hose and pump. I do this session for 15 minutes. I have found that I get NO soreness, red spots, or fluid build up with this method. Plus, it really feels great. When I reach the end of the session, I re-attach the hose and slowly let the vacuum off until the tube is just barely sealed, being careful to hold the tube upright so as not to suck any water up the hose, but still have a slight pump going, maybe for another 5 or so minutes. Then I again remove the hose and just leave the tube on until I'm ready to finish my bath. I then just pull the skin away from the base and the tube just floats off. This routine usually takes about 30 minutes. Of course I only do this when I have extra time in the morning. I usually take a shower.
If anyone tries this, let me know what you think.
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Old 11-20-2006, 03:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'll add this to the Advanced Techniques thread JP.
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I'll add this to the Advanced Techniques thread JP.
O.K. But..Leave it in the Pumping Forum, also.
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Old 11-20-2006, 04:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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O.K. But..Leave it in the Pumping Forum, also.
Yeah, I just linked it.
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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On water pumping

JonPop,
How hot is your bath water when you do this "about how hot"?
I'm sending an order out tomorrow for my LA Pump and I was thinking about pumping in the bath too. Have you thought about useing a cold pack to finish off your water pumping routine?
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:03 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hot as I can stand it. Nah to the cold pack. I like the warm fuzzy feeling.
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:10 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I've heard and read that water pumping is supposed to be better. I don't recall exactly what made it better... When pumping with water just make sure you don't suck water up into the pump itself as it can mess it up from what i've been told. The best bet is to add and in-line trap to make sure you keep water out of the pump.
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:11 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks JonPop

Keep us posted on this routine, I'm sure this is how I will do it too and I will post my experiance too.
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I've heard and read that water pumping is supposed to be better. I don't recall exactly what made it better... When pumping with water just make sure you don't suck water up into the pump itself as it can mess it up from what i've been told. The best bet is to add and in-line trap to make sure you keep water out of the pump.
Hey sik,
I think it's because of the constant heat from the water.
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I've heard and read that water pumping is supposed to be better. I don't recall exactly what made it better... When pumping with water just make sure you don't suck water up into the pump itself as it can mess it up from what i've been told. The best bet is to add and in-line trap to make sure you keep water out of the pump.
Hey dogg. If you're careful, no problem. Just water half way up the glans and it leaves enough air space to pump without sucking water. Just don't drop the pump in the tub. I absolutly love pumping this way. I can go 15-20 minutes with no redness or soreness. Give it a try. I've been pumping like this for the past 2 weeks, every chance I get. Takes more time in the morning than a shower but...Give it a try.
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I'll have to give it a try. I've just wrapped a heating pad aroung my tube during my sessions in the past. That seemed to work well for me. This way sounds interesting.
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I'll have to give it a try. I've just wrapped a heating pad aroung my tube during my sessions in the past. That seemed to work well for me. This way sounds interesting.
It's not just the heat, although it's nice to have hot water inside and out of the tube. Just something about the comfort that the water inside the tube gives you. Remember...You can compress a gas, but you cannot compress a liquid.
I still get all of the expansion of the tissue, with NO redness or discoloration.
I have upped my time to 20 minutes at 5in. hg and feel I could go much longer, but common sense prevails. I'll let the vacuum off until nothing is on the gauge and still have a great expansion, sit there for another 5 minutes before I just slowly pull the scrotum skin away and let the tube float off.
If I sound like I am enthused about this...Well, I am.
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Hey dogg. If you're careful, no problem. Just water half way up the glans and it leaves enough air space to pump without sucking water. Just don't drop the pump in the tub. I absolutly love pumping this way. I can go 15-20 minutes with no redness or soreness. Give it a try. I've been pumping like this for the past 2 weeks, every chance I get. Takes more time in the morning than a shower but...Give it a try.
I've wanted to try it for some time but since i take showers instead of baths i just never figured out when i could do it...
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I've wanted to try it for some time but since i take showers instead of baths i just never figured out when i could do it...
Just like any form of PE. Ya gotta make the time. But hey dogg, if you try it once, you'll be hooked and will find yourself in a HOT tub more frequently.
I know, real men take showers, but real PE'rs don't give a shit what anyone thinks and just grow bigger dicks.
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JonPop,
Do you do any pe before you pump? I am planning on doing a full blown workout before I water pump.
I sent the order out today for mine after I got out of work today so in a week or so I'll be adding pumpping sessions to my regular workout. I will also update my stats before I start.
Did you get the DVD with your pump? If you did, what do you think about the information they provide?
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No, I don't do any PE before I pump. I do all my girth work after. Where are you getting your pump? If I got a CD, I don't remember.
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No, I don't do any PE before I pump. I do all my girth work after. Where are you getting your pump? If I got a CD, I don't remember.
I ordered the deluxe model.
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JP, what is your after pumpping w/o?

JP, what is your after pumpping w/o? Did you measure before you added the pump to your routine?
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Old 11-27-2006, 10:06 PM   #19 (permalink)
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JP, what is your after pumpping w/o? Did you measure before you added the pump to your routine?
I've since changed my routine to this:

I get up at 6. I turn on the TV in the kitchen and make a pot of coffee. While I am watching the morning news I warm up for 10 minutes. I can bust through the Newbie routine in about 25 minutes and then a 5 minute warm down. I then go run a hot bath and water pump for 15 minutes. The rest of the bath usually takes another 10 minutes. Then about 5 minutes for 50 or so wet Jelq's and another 10 minutes using Enlargel to pump again, so that's what? Just a little over an hour for girth work? Then in the afternoon I'll hang for 10 minutes, massage and Helicopter shakes, hang for 10 minutes, same and then another 10 minute hang, so all in all I figure I devote around 2 hours to PE. Of course I do the 3-parts and manual stretch throughout the day.
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Hey! Anybody tried water pumping yet? How about you Betterman? Dogg? Loki? If you have, please post your experience.
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Hey JonPop

Haven't got my pump yet, I've sent the order out but nothing yet. I sent a moneyorder instead of creditcard. I can't wait to get going though. Did you do any measuring befor you started your pumping routine? I'll say this JP, your long workout is wild
I do one hell of alot of stretching during the day, I do tunic twists, 5 way stretched and a-arm stretches. My version of the a-arm is I use my thumb, I do the entire shaft in segments. I'll do these stretches as many as 10 times a day.
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Just measured. This is 3 hours after water pumping this morning and everything relaxed. I just went and worked myself a nice woodie. I have gained since around the first week in November, when I first started water pumping, 1/8" in length to 8 5/8" and 1/4" in MSEG, to 6/12".

Loki, did you ever get your pump?
Dogg, have you tried water pumping yet?
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I occasionally water pump JP. Usually I don't do a lot of warm up, maybe some jelqs and do 3 ten minute or so sessions with the pump in the bath.

I am not sure what pressure, as I have no guage on the pump.

I can tell you though that I get really huge temporary girth gains when I do this but it is also kind of "spongy" feeling. Girlfriend enjoys the extra girth occasionally but most of the time she prefers it "natural" with less girth and harder. So its just an occasional thing, I have never felt it gives permanent gains.

Do you find you get "spongy" as well? I might be using too high a pressure but without a guage, its hard to judge.
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Oh yeah, had for almost two months now. Don't use it as much as I would like to though, when I do use it I hot water pump.
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