Falcon

A quick question for guys that pump.

How much Hg do you go with (considering that you are a Pump Vet) on the average?

I'm doing 7 hg and it feels like my eyelids are going to be sucked out of my brain scull.

Falcon

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10

From what I remember, I did no more than 5 HG.

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Überschwanz

I never go above 6inHg.

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rocky6535

I usually maintain somewhere around 6 or 7. If it feels too intense, you might want to back down a little and gradually work your way up. It could be a sensitivity thing, but 7 usually feels very comfortable to me.

Betterman

A few years ago I would pump at 5 to 6. I currently pump at 8. I doubt I will ever go above this. After a good girth workout. I get good results of 30 - 40 min. of pumping without a donut even starting. Of course, I take a massage break at 10 min. intervals. FYI.

Falcon

Ok, Thanks Guys,

I'll back it off to 5 or 6. I usually pump for 10 minutes.

Falcon

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Loki

Betterman,
When did you start pumping and how much have you gained?

Loki

Betterman

I started PE when I was 30. I wasn't consistent though. I would exercise steady for a few months, then slack off. I even took a couple years off because I seemed to plateau. When I turned 38, or thereabouts, I decided I would make one hell of an effort to reach my goals. That was when I landed here. I was looking for some extra ummph. For when I jelqed.

I found it was easier to go for length. So that is what I focused on for the most part. Since I damn near reached my 8" length goal. I'm focused more on girth now. I'd like to reach 6" in girth.

My starting starts when I was 30 was 4.75 EG - 6 EL. Stats on Jan. 1st of this year was 7.875 EL - 5.250 EG. I've been consistently using the pump daily as a supplemental for the last 2 years or so. I measure once a year.

want8

Damn nice gains there bud! And when I first started, I was like you, on and off. I wish I had stuck with it consistently because I am sure I would be where I want to be by now if I had.

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Betterman

I hear that. PE isn't easy. It takes alot of persistents. I found that by getting up earlier in the morning is the best way. This way, you won't sacrifice family time etc. You would just be adding a task on the "Things To Do List".

If memory serves. I believe SikDog mentioned that your hormone levels were the hightest in the mornings also.

I think it's easiest to knock out your length goal first. Any thoughts?

Loki

You've done well for yourself and I'd have to agree, length is by far easier to gain.

When you hit your plateau, how much had you gained upto that point? How did you break your plateau? Man, I am there now, I have tried everything to bust through, but nothing yet, but I will break through one of these times.

My workout time is when ever, I'm thinking about breaking it up, doing it when I first get out of bed and just before I go to bed for the night, see if that does the trick.

Betterman

I believe the slight girth gains came from the lengthening more than the hand jelqing. It's hard to say.

I just used my tensioner more consistently. I'm starting to think there isn't really a "Plateau." It's just that the body grows faster or slower, in intervals. It's at the slower growth stages, that kills the enthusiasm for PE. If you give up on PE entirely. You may miss the growth spurt per say. Then after a time passes. You think to yourself "I should be able to get more gains. Maybe I'm doing something wrong." That's why I believe CONSISTENCY is key. I started doing mostly girth exercises around the first of the year. So far so good.

Last year I was exercising in the morning and evening. I don't see any advantage to this for me. Just extra time put in only. My body uses the time better for growth in a 24 hr cycle. Rather than a 12 hr. cycle. I workout at least for an hour.

I hope there's something in this Rant that was helpful.

I might add that pumping as a supplemental. Acts as an alternative to using a soft cockring after a girth workout. Pumping holds out the expanded tissues for a longer length of time. Where growth can occur. I don't think permanent gains can come from pumping only. FYI

Falcon

Last week I was enjoying a pint of Jim Beam and said "What the hell! I think I'll do some pumping!"
So I proceeded to pump 3 times, 6 hg 10 minutes each time.
Holy cow! My cock must have increassed in girth by 2 1/2 times! What a trip!
I could just imagine having sex with that monster.
I know that wasn't the brightest thing to do but I just had to find out what would happen. I won't be doing that again anytime soon as I got the doughnut effect and all. Next day everything was all good again.

Falcon

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JonPop

Had that happen the first time I pumped. My girth was huge. Never been able to repeat that but it was awsome. I use a sliding scale when I water pump.
I have a clock with a second hand, hanging on the wall over the tub and will pump to 6hg for 1 minute, let the vacuum off for 30 seconds and then pump to 8hg for 1 minute, let the vacuum off for 1 minute, pump to 10hg for 1 minute, let the vacuum off for 1 minute and then pump to 6hg and hold for 5 minutes.
I will then release the pressure (just enough to maintain a seal) and "Jack" the tube for about 1 minute to get circulation flowing good again. I will then finish my pumping session with 5hg for another 5 minutes. No doughnut with this routine.

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wantItThicker

Do you guys go in "hard" or pump from soft?

Myself I am no longer turned on by the sight of a plastic tube, and even porn is getting boring. A good looking woman in the flesh does wonders but thats about it.

I usually need to pump up to even around 10 hg initially and then I just relax and the blood flows in. After that I drop it down between 5-7 hg, and leave it for 5 minutes. Then its nice and plump for jelqing (200 reps), then back in the pump 5-7 hg for 10 mins.. repeat.. as much as I have time for.

Even at 5-7 hg I am not at full erection though (maybe 70-80%). Would need to go higher but want to keep it safe. What erection level are you guys at when you pump?

Betterman

If you do happen to get a doughnut. Slowly Squeegy it back down the shaft a few times. Then with a little pressure. Massage for 10 min. This will get your penis with the added girth looking normal again without a doughnut.

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Loki

Hey Falcon,
When I pump I go as high as 10 hg for 4 sets of 10 minuites each, but I use hot water and work my way up to 10. I sometimes get a doughnut, even if I jelq in between pumping sessions.

Please my freind, be very careful with booze and doing anything "I know you know, but I just had to say it "

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Falcon

I think the booze had something to do with the extra pump I experienced.

Guess I'll save the rest of the Beam for this weekend when I go fishing.

Falcon

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Loki

I think so too, I think it was because you blood was thinner due to the JB. Try a couple of asprins a hour or so befor you pump, that will thin your blood too. But be very careful with asprin usage, it is very hard on ones body.

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italiananglo69

i am doing 2-15 minute sessions at 10hg. i not getting a donut anymore but i do get red spots occasionally and sometimes scrotum gets bruised. its not painful at 10hg with the silicone ring before i got it i was limited to about 5-6hg.

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4.75" mid Girth----------------------5.00" Mid Girth
5.25" Base Girth--------------------6.50" Base Girth

rocky6535

I always pump erect and I maintain it throughout the session by watching porn. It's funny how that helps to solve the problem of missing workouts. Also, if I get the donut effect, I've found that getting an erection usually solves it fairly quickly. When it goes back down, it's normal.

Loki

I go in oft, but at different points it gets hard. I get a much better expantion when soft. I do alot of pc flexes while pumping too.

Have you used hot water yet? If you haven't you really need to give it a shot, it works great.

Best of luck to you-Loki

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Betterman

I go in hard & stay hard for me. I finish when I fill my 2" tube. About 20 - 30 min. After my 30 min. girth workout.

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rod crowley

Thats irrelevent,you become fully erect when pumped,so erect or no it doesnt matter.after 15 years of pumping,i gotta say the results are the same.

rocky6535

15 years! I didn't know they had invented pumps that long ago. You have to tell us more details about your pumping experience. A veteran like you should be full of advice. How much have you gained over that period of time, and what has been your most effective routine? Also, is pumping the only pe that you have done, or have you done other exercises too?

budn

I have been getting testosterone injections for about a year due to other problems. I started pumping on dec 15th. I went from 4.9 inches hard to 5.5 in this time. also 4.6 around to 5 around. If this is just the start the rest is going to be fantastic! My target is 7" and 6" around. The wife has noticed and now tells me thank you that was good! By the way I am a 55 yr old male with some erection problems. I pump every day for about 20 mins at what ever feels right.
No more than 10 inHg. Do streaching. Give it time and it will work. I am sure that I am the exception to the rules but it does work.

JAYJAY

I start at about 8. Then work my way up anywhere between 15 and 20. Occasionally, I'll stretch to 25 for a very short time right at the end. My sessions last anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour of constant suction (no breaks). I have been pumping for about 15 years at high pressure though, so I am unusual among the pumpers I hear on this site.

adamander

Hi Budn. May I suggest to you a very special vitamin pill that really improves erection. It is amazing but I am not quite sure you could find it everywhere. Well you can surely get it online. It is called ARCALION 200, the substance name being 'sulbutiamine'. Take 3 tablets every morning for one month then go to 2 tablets daily. It is better than Viagra or other tablets because it really conditions the your love-tool to work maximally without side-effects. I would recommend it to all men who are finding ED a problem especially in the initial stages. I have given it to an 80 year-old man who came complaining of ED and it worked perfectly. Try it and do give me your feed-back please.

slickwillie

Hey adamander, where did the Viagra post/info come from? Just wondering if I missed something...

Bigtex

I'm a pe newbie. I can go to 6-7 hg before I feel any discomfort. Is that bad? I been pumping at 5 hg off and on for a few weeks now.

McB52

Been pumping for about a months time. Can't do it everyday since I'm doing PE in stealth...yeah, she still has no idea, but that's a different story.

I have been experimenting with penis and ball pumping. I think both are awesome!!! For penis pumping I stay within 7hg for my sessions. For ball pumping, first time is 5Hg for 15 minutes. All other ball pumping sessions are at 7Hg.

When I did my research into pumping it was recommended to stay under 10hg. Been trying to follow that advice. I figure with more experience and time that could change too.

Last note, I'm pumping as an additional PE method. I still stretch, jelq daily. I also use a All Day Stretcher(ADS) Monday - Friday.

McB

Betterman

I don't go over 5hg with the Penile cylinders, and 4 with the whole package cylinders. I've found less bruising occurs and what bruising you may have is eleviated. Also, I found best results with everyday exercising with moderation, instead of on again off again routines. The tissues worked regularly go through less stress. IMO, early morning routines are the only way to go. I implement PE into other body exercising, for the "Whole" exercised experience. I must mention, I'm trying to achieve a healthy, toned result, not a body building approach.

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