gq4real

I want to start pumping, and my focus is erect length. My question is whether individuals think it is best to pursue total package pumping (The Long Johnny @ pumptoys.com) or just cock pumping (Velseal @ pumptoys.com) to achieve my erect length goals?

JonPop

Welcome to the BetterMan gg4real. If you buy a pump, make sure you get one with a gague. You will be dissapointed if you think you will achieve your length goals just by pumping. To achieve length, you must manual stretch or hang.

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Betterman

I've been using the Long Johnny for a few months. My results have been a lower hanging scrotum {good for tapping the clip when behind}. I've also had more girth growth, around 1/4". Also, I've been working my glans. Which after a clamping workout, this cylinder really gives me great expansion of the whole package. Mi Lady has mentioned more than once of my gains. As mentioned previously, length gains have been in Mi scrotum only. FYI

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gq4real

In addition to pumping, I plan to do other forms of PE, i.e. jelq, manual stretches, and wear an ADS. I am aware pumping alone will not get me the length gains I want, therefore, I will be using a combination of things. Basically, I think pumping will allow the suspensitory ligament another form of relaxation. Then I will hold that stretch with my ADS. Also, I think pumping will help my flaccid hang.

I am also aware a gague is necessary. Has anyone ever used the cyclinders from pumptoys.com? How would you compare the Velseal to the cylinders at Vacutech?

gq4real

Thanks for the info. I think I will stick with a cock only pump for now. Maybe later, once I have achieved my length gains, will I start full package pumping to increase my bulge.

gq4real

Currently, I measure 7.5" x ~5 - 5.25". What size pump should I use, 1.75" x 9", 10", or 11"?

Loki

I'd say go with the 1.75"X11", you'll be surprised how fast you can grow, it's better to have too much than too little.

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gq4real

I thought the recommended was 2-3" longer than your erect length? Do you really think I will grow that much? To be honest, I have been thinking about getting the 1.75" x 9" cylinder as I have read from several people that length is harder to come by than girth. In addition, I would be closer to packing the tube length-wise with the 9" cylinder and then I would really be able to pull at the suspensitory ligament. In doing so, I would need to take some precautionary measures as to not hurt my member from the added pressure on the glans, so wearing a condom may be necessary if I get the 9" cylinder. To be honest, I am a beginner and just trying to reason from my research so suggestions from the vets would be very helpful!

Also, I am not sure if I should purchase a cylinder from Vacutech or Pumptoys. I am considering the Velseal from pumptoys or from Vacutech there is the cylinder with the ring at the bottom for comfort or should I get the thick wall? Again, my focus is length and I have heard the thick wall cylinder is suppose to help stretch the suspensitory ligament better. The Velseal from pumptoys has the same thickness as the thick wall cylinder, but it has the cushioned ring so the cylinder does not dig into your pelvice. Any suggestions?

Betterman

If you want, post some links of what you're interested in. I like the silicone seal with my 2-stage. It's very comfortable. I haven't tried a silicone seal with either the mushroom head maker or my 2x9.

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"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he
cannot believe it exists". -- J. Edgar Hoover, FBI Director 1924-1972, quoted in The Elks Magazine (August 1956).

"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from
its [corrupt feudal] government." -- Thomas Paine.

"Each of you, for himself, by himself and on his own responsibility, must speak". -- Mark Twain.

"The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, and more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces as public enemies all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the
bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my
greatest foe." -- President Abraham Lincoln.

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell.


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http://www.naturesaccents.com/cart/c...c&p=34392e3935

gq4real

Velseal from pumptoys:

https://www.pumptoys.com/prod/stoframe.php

Long Johnny from pumptoys:

https://www.pumptoys.com/prod/stoframe.php

Thick walled cylinder from Vacutech:

Vacu-Tech - Product Details

Flared cylinder from Vacutech:

Vacu-Tech - Product Details

With pumptoys they provide the same link for both products. I am not sure what that is all about, but you will be able to find them both. Thanks for the feedback.

Betterman

The VelSeal looks like a very comfortable cylinder. I wish I would have seen them sooner. I already have my cylinders.

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"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he
cannot believe it exists". -- J. Edgar Hoover, FBI Director 1924-1972, quoted in The Elks Magazine (August 1956).

"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from
its [corrupt feudal] government." -- Thomas Paine.

"Each of you, for himself, by himself and on his own responsibility, must speak". -- Mark Twain.

"The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, and more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces as public enemies all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the
bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my
greatest foe." -- President Abraham Lincoln.

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell.


For new rollers only -
http://www.naturesaccents.com/cart/c...c&p=34392e3935

Sumore

I am very happy to meet you (real) guys. New hope for sure. Thought I was done growing. I have just ordered the Phallosan system. It looks good to me and I read about some of your members starting with it as well and wanted to know where they were at. Any insite?

Falcon

One for the Pumping Vets.

I got a 2 1/4" by 10" tube.
My base girth is 7" and my BPEL is 7 1/2". When I pump up I fill the tube (starting at the bottom) about 30% of the way. After that I figure I've got about 3/8" air space between my cock and the inner wall of the tube.

I usually only pump once a day for 15 minutes and maybe once a week twice in a day.

I like my girth pretty much but would like to add another 1/2 inch in length. Should I go down to a 2" tube or?

I'm a Newbee at pumping so any advise is welcome.

Falcon

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Betterman

With that much girth, I don't think pumping would assist much with length any more. You may want to look at another means of stretching.
I remember when I first started pumping. I had really good results with length. After awhile of PE, it seems my cock tissue became more resilient. I needed to find other ways to get the tissue to fatigue.

Pumping works great with my girth goals. It keeps me at an expanded state for a longer time period. Luckily, my length gains are sufficient. I just never had the courage to try hanging.

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Enlighten the people, generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like spirits at the dawn of day. - Thomas Jefferson

"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he
cannot believe it exists". -- J. Edgar Hoover, FBI Director 1924-1972, quoted in The Elks Magazine (August 1956).

"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from
its [corrupt feudal] government." -- Thomas Paine.

"Each of you, for himself, by himself and on his own responsibility, must speak". -- Mark Twain.

"The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, and more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces as public enemies all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the
bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my
greatest foe." -- President Abraham Lincoln.

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell.


For new rollers only -
http://www.naturesaccents.com/cart/c...c&p=34392e3935

Falcon

Hanging at lower weights actually feels good.

Falcon

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italiananglo69

Falcon you didnt say if you are warm water pumping? i think with a girth like that you better stick to the larger tube you have. when i warm water pump my base girth gets pretty tight and im at 6.5". I have a 2x10 tube by the way.

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Starting stats ----------------------Current Stats
(6/07/06) -------------------------(10/25/07)
6:00 LOT --------------------------12:00 LOT
6.25" BPEL--------------------------7.25" BPEL
7.0" BPSFL --------------------------8.25"BPSFL
4.75" mid Girth----------------------5.00" Mid Girth
5.25" Base Girth--------------------6.50" Base Girth

gq4real

What did you do to get your length gains? How much did you gain?

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TheDickler

so? what's wrong with that? lol.

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