question about JD

Jon · 05-02-2008, 10:24 PM

question about the JD. Does it actually roll up and down your penis or more just pull it to the tip?

Is this something you do 100% hard or more like 50%. The site has zero instructions..

Side note, im starting to get into Jelqs and I find it hard to keep it up once I get into it, (especially near the end of the work out). is this normal? its rather frustrating. lol

JonPop · 05-03-2008, 01:04 AM

The "rollers," I believe are mis-named. They aren't designed to 'roll'.

This is why you use a good quality lube like baby oil gel. The rollers slide up the shaft. Very effectivly, I might add.

rocky6535 · 05-05-2008, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon

question about the JD. Does it actually roll up and down your penis or more just pull it to the tip?

Is this something you do 100% hard or more like 50%. The site has zero instructions..

Side note, im starting to get into Jelqs and I find it hard to keep it up once I get into it, (especially near the end of the work out). is this normal? its rather frustrating. lol

Eventually everyone has to reach fatigue at some point. I have always wondered is that the whole point of doing the exercises. Should you always being trying to reach that point where it becomes difficult to maintain 50-75% erection? If it doesn't happen, are you undertraining? Or conversely is this the point that you are trying to avoid, and therefore, the let down is a sign of overtraining?

Also, if you are just starting out, don't jump right into using the Jelq Device. Learn how to hand jelq first and condition yourself for a couple of months doing 200-300 good ones per day. If that is too difficult, start with fewer and work your way up to that before buying the Jelq Device.

10 · 05-05-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rocky6535

Eventually everyone has to reach fatigue at some point. I have always wondered is that the whole point of doing the exercises. Should you always being trying to reach that point where it becomes difficult to maintain 50-75% erection? If it doesn't happen, are you undertraining? Or conversely is this the point that you are trying to avoid, and therefore, the let down is a sign of overtraining?

Also, if you are just starting out, don't jump right into using the Jelq Device. Learn how to hand jelq first and condition yourself for a couple of months doing 200-300 good ones per day. If that is too difficult, start with fewer and work your way up to that before buying the Jelq Device.

I again agree here with Rocky. If you're new to PE, don't use the JD. Get conditioned with the newbie routine first before implementing any devices into your routine.

As for the level of erection? Hmmm, that's almost a tough one to answer because everyone has their opinions as to what works best and since I'm really bad at determining what 60% erect is versus 80% erect, I go with what works best for me. I use mine at anywhere from 80-100% erect. At 100%, I don't go balls to the wall with force either, I go gently until the boner subsides a bit then I apply greater pressure to my strokes. From a personal standpoint, I use the jd as my sole means to jelq. I love it, my rooster loves it and once you get it going, it actually feels pretty damn good too! And, I've gotten excellent results from it's usage so I'm one of it's best advocates. And no, JP is correct, the rollers don't roll up, but rather slide which as JP pointed out to you, is the reason you need a good lubricant when using it. I use a lube I buy from a local adult shop but you can use whatever works best for you.

Good luck brother and happy PE'ing!!! The goals and rewards of PE are yours for the taking, you just need to remain consistent and dedicated to this process and it'll happen for you.

Jon · 05-05-2008, 04:59 PM

Thanks guys, I have a progress thread up now too.

I'm not really 'new' to PE. I have been doing manual stretches and using an extender for about 3 months, but not doing jelqs so I am more new to that.

I figure I will hold off on the JD for a little and get it when the time is right.

I think I read somewhere that there is no point in getting it until you stop seeing gains from manual PE.

10 · 05-05-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon

Thanks guys, I have a progress thread up now too.

I'm not really 'new' to PE. I have been doing manual stretches and using an extender for about 3 months, but not doing jelqs so I am more new to that.

I figure I will hold off on the JD for a little and get it when the time is right.

I think I read somewhere that there is no point in getting it until you stop seeing gains from manual PE.

I don't totally agree with that statement about getting the JD only after gains from regular jelqing have ceased. I bought my first one some years ago as my hands were simply getting too damn tired of jelqing. Remember, two strokes with the hands equals one jelq. Perhaps it's a preference thing..........I don't know. You can certainly buy the JD now and hold off on using it until you're ready. If you've only been doing stretching exercises for length and nothing for girth these past 3 months, you'll need to spend some time conditioning your rod with manual hand jelqing before implementing the JD. Good luck bro and keep it goin'! This is a positively life changing process and you'll love the results you see!!!!!

Jon · 05-05-2008, 06:05 PM

yeah, i think I will hold off.

I have just heard from some posts that ppl should wait until gains have slowed until they get the JD. Either way, I will see what happens with Jelq's from my hand and take it from there.

10 · 05-05-2008, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon

yeah, i think I will hold off.

I have just heard from some posts that ppl should wait until gains have slowed until they get the JD. Either way, I will see what happens with Jelq's from my hand and take it from there.

Whatever you choose to do brother, we're here for you. Just stay motivated and focused and you'll get there.

Jon · 05-05-2008, 07:05 PM

Thanks 10, I will.

Hopefully good things will follow soon

10 · 05-05-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon

Thanks 10, I will.

Hopefully good things will follow soon

Brother, you can only go onward and upward from here! Best of luck to you and again, any questions, give a shout out.

Douglas Hamlin · 06-27-2008, 06:17 AM

I have been using the PJ/JD for nearly 1.5 months now, and I would like to get some feedback...

I'm not exactly sold on it as I am uncertain as to whether or not it is more effective than hand jelqing. Typically, I use the PJ for 5-6 minutes per set, 3 sets/workout; 2 days on, 1 day off. From a technique stand point, each rep starts at the base moving up to the head for ~3 seconds, and then back down towards the base, again ~3 seconds.

Lately, I haven't been experiencing any post exercise pumps after using my PJ. But today, I switched back to hand jelqing - using the same program - and have experienced a decent post exercise pump (hanging lower and fuller).

Regardless, my questions are:

Is it more effective to go 'up' and 'down', or just in one direction (up/down)?

Also, has anyone experienced benefits from using it sideways - hitting the sides of the shaft instead of top and bottom?

alexbell · 07-02-2008, 09:07 AM

As a newbie I bought the Jelqdevice and Penismaster "combo upsize special meal deal". I have been going fairly gently with both devices. It's been about three months and I have gained .25 in length and the same in width. A lot of guys swear by the manual techniques. Me, I'm a gadget freak..

I don't see any reason to wait...

JonPop · 07-02-2008, 04:37 PM

Doug. With the Jelq Device, start at the bottom of the shaft, squeeze and move the blood bulge up the shaft, stopping at the glans. Hold there for around 3 seconds while pulling out, not too much just a good stretch. Then, release. Move back down the shaft squeeze and start back up again. Don't try and squeeze and move the JD in both directions. Just from bottom to top. If you can use this on the sides as some of us can, it adds to the overall workout.

hooters950 · 07-02-2008, 06:07 PM

With the JD can you put it on the the sides of the penis (left and right) and do the jelq, replacing the V-Jelq?

JonPop · 07-02-2008, 07:43 PM

No. The "V" Jelq is a unique exercise unto it'self.

Douglas Hamlin · 07-11-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JonPop

Doug. With the Jelq Device, start at the bottom of the shaft, squeeze and move the blood bulge up the shaft, stopping at the glans. Hold there for around 3 seconds while pulling out, not too much just a good stretch. Then, release. Move back down the shaft squeeze and start back up again. Don't try and squeeze and move the JD in both directions. Just from bottom to top. If you can use this on the sides as some of us can, it adds to the overall workout.

Thanks, Jon. I have been using the technique that you recommended, in addition to using some kegels between the end of a rep and the beginning of another, to keep 'lil Doug' engorged. I stopped PJing the sides; for now, I don't think it helped much, but rather just took away time from working the top and bottom which seems to be most effective. Also, I find that it feels the best when I am 80-90% erect, as this tends to keep the corpus sponginosum (bottom aspect and connection to the head) more engorged.

My progress has been going well; each workouts yields a nice pump that has been getting bigger and bigger from one workout to the next. With these modifications, I have gained an additional 1/8" in Erect Girth (from 4 3/4" to 4 7/8") in 2 weeks, haven't measure length though as it is not my primary focus for now.

Get it Done! :)

Douglas Hamlin

Jack · 07-14-2008, 02:56 AM

Thanks Jon P!

That answers a question I posted on a thread recently. Even after lots of time with my routine I continue to learn about how to do PE to get the best results.

Jack