CUSP82

Well, if you had to make the choice today, would it be:
A) Obama
B) McCain
C) None of the above!

Personally McCain is the lesser of two evils but why do I have to choose between two evils? Is there no one that can bring to this counrty truth,justice, and the American way?

cepheus

...Hillary

MILF HOT! ahhahah.

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sikdogg

For me... the lesser of two evils is McCain.

Hillary is one fugly bitch that sounds like a man and i wouldn't fuck her with someone else's dick.

JonPop

I agree dogg. The Hillanator, is a 1.
The better question should be:

Would you vote for an Obama, Clinton ticket?

Would you vote for a McCain, Ron Paul ticket?

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LiftingAddict

Your right. McCain is definately the lesser of the two evils. Obama looks to raise taxes in all categories especially income tax. He also is going to fuck up health care and all illegal immigrants will be flooding the doctors offices leaving Americans waiting in line. In terms of foreign policy neither have really any solution to our energy crisis and I would rather have a McCain personality at a switch than an Obama, just because I like a man with balls whose not afraid to use force when necessary.

In regards to the War in Iraq I have mixed opinions. I think we should get out of there sooner than later, but also don't want this to turn into another Vietnam, which weakened America's image in the eyes of the world.

Betterman

Hillary wants second chair so bad. Hell, she probably would hire a Hit after they was elected. She Is One Power Hungry Bitch. Scary.

Obama ..... he's just a crowd pleaser! I don't trust him to drive the ship. A good entertainer though.

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Überschwanz

I don't know if you've noticed or not, but there isn't anything to "fuck up" right now.

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southern tz

Definitely McCain. Obama will raise taxes in many areas.

StrokerAce69

Word my brother!

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LiftingAddict

By giving universal free health care to everyone, the waiting rooms will be flooded with people who don't have very serious problems b/c its free. Doctors will be payed barely anything and malpractice (already an extremely costly insurance) insurance will go through the roof.

So it would definately get worse

Marty5379

The lesser of the two evils ... the liberal McCain, but only because he will fight the terrorist. Otherwise, I would be voting for Bob Bar - Libertarian.

By the way, why is Obama called the first black candidate when he mother was white? He's as much white as he is black.

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happy stud

I get tickled how people believe Obama is going to help them. If your a lazy ass then yeah hes your man. That fucker will have a tax on us logging into Betterman before its all over. The problem with this damn country is theres too many mealy mouth assholes that want to give everybody something for free but expect everybody else to pay for it. Fuck that. Like sikdogg said its the lesser of 2 evils. You gotta go with McCain.

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StrokerAce69

Absomothufuckinlutly!

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CUSP82

On second thought,I'd vote for JP with Sikkdog for VP.

cepheus

JP for president = Jelqing as our new national sport =D

I love it!!!!!!

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JonPop

My fellow Americans. Today, I come before you to say:

If Nominated I will not accept.

If Elected I will not serve.

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happy stud

It be nice if Obama and McCain said the same thing.

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Betterman

No matter how bad a situation. It can always get worse.

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"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he
cannot believe it exists". -- J. Edgar Hoover, FBI Director 1924-1972, quoted in The Elks Magazine (August 1956).

"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from
its [corrupt feudal] government." -- Thomas Paine.

"Each of you, for himself, by himself and on his own responsibility, must speak". -- Mark Twain.

"The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, and more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces as public enemies all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the
bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my
greatest foe." -- President Abraham Lincoln.

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell.


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Überschwanz

So suboptimal medical care is worse than no medical care? Don't tell that to people in that situation.

You're also making the assumption that people like going to the ER. Afterall, it's free! Furthermore, government jobs include loads of benefits with their pay. You'll have doctors clamboring to get into those jobs just like you have people trying to get government jobs in every sector.

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Überschwanz

Do you earn $200,000+ a year stud? If not, you don't have much of anything to worry about.

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Betterman

I thought everyone has medical services. Even the illegal immigrants. If you are ill and go into a hospital. They will either take care of you or direct you to a hospital such as County.

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"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he
cannot believe it exists". -- J. Edgar Hoover, FBI Director 1924-1972, quoted in The Elks Magazine (August 1956).

"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from
its [corrupt feudal] government." -- Thomas Paine.

"Each of you, for himself, by himself and on his own responsibility, must speak". -- Mark Twain.

"The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, and more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces as public enemies all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the
bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my
greatest foe." -- President Abraham Lincoln.

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell.


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Überschwanz

There are many communities in this country that are 100+ miles from the closest hospital, but that's not what I'm getting at.

Illegal immigrants are terrified about going to the hospital because they believe it will allow the INS to find them.

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JonPop

Yep, that's why diseases such as small pox, polio, T.B. and others that we had pretty much wiped out or controlled, are makeing such a comeback.

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Betterman

I kinda think that what illegal means.

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"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he
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"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from
its [corrupt feudal] government." -- Thomas Paine.

"Each of you, for himself, by himself and on his own responsibility, must speak". -- Mark Twain.

"The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, and more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces as public enemies all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the
bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my
greatest foe." -- President Abraham Lincoln.

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell.


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Überschwanz

You missed my point Betterman.

I wasn't saying what an illegal is and isn't. I was saying that it is an urban myth that illegals want to take advantage of free healthcare because from their perspective it's not worth the gamble of getting deported even if they do get the healthcare they need.

France has had problems with immigrants because it hasn't taken measures to integrate them into society. The first and best way to integrate illegals that are already here (because it's impossible to send them all back) is to take away that fear. If they aren't afraid of being deported, they will be more cooperative with police as far as fighting crime is concerned and ultimately may have the chance to become legal citizens who pay into the tax system rather than just suck it dry.

It's impossible to deport 10-20 million people.

I still think it's necessary to build a fence though!

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