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Old 04-03-2009, 10:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Testosterone critical for healthy erectile function
by George Atkinson

Researchers have found that testosterone gel can make erectile dysfunction drugs more effective and can also assist in maintaining the integrity of the penis' cavernosal structures. The research team involved set out to compare the effectiveness of testosterone gel (T-gel) versus placebo as a supplement used with sildenafil (marketed as Viagra) in low testotsterone men with erectile dysfunction who did not previously respond to sildenafil alone.

The study, appearing in the Journal of Urology, found that the testosterone treated subjects had a greater improvement in erectile function compared to those who received placebo. Additionally, the researchers noted that the patients reported improvements in orgasmic function and overall satisfaction.

Interestingly, an evolving concept in the field of erectile dysfunction is the relevance of androgens in general, and testosterone in particular. Experimental evidence for the crucial importance of androgens in the maintenance of the anatomical integrity of the penile cavernosal structures is overwhelming. Additionally, several clinical studies have confirmed improvement in sexual desire and erectile quality in testosterone deficient men treated with testosterone gel.

The new study indicates that testosterone deficiency interferes not only with normal function, but also with the response to treatments (in this case, sildenafil) specifically aimed at correcting the inadequate mechanisms of erection.

Based on the new findings, the researchers suggest that assessment of testosterone levels should be part of the initial assessment of men complaining of erectile dysfunction. If a testosterone deficiency is documented, it should be treated initially and may be all that is necessary. However, if the response is inadequate, the addition of a specific agent such as sildenafil may be required.

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Old 04-04-2009, 01:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Good! good! good! that is all great! The numbskulls are getting a bit closer. Now they need to be more aggresive about hypothyroid diesease and its contribution to ED. As we age thyroid function decreases. When Thyroid function decreases everything else decreases including the production of testosterone.
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Old 04-04-2009, 04:06 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Good! good! good! that is all great! The numbskulls are getting a bit closer. now they need to be more aggresive about hypothyroid diesease and its contribution to ED. As we age thyrpoid function decreases. When Thyroid function decreases everything else decreases including the production of testosterone.
Hasn't studies shown that higher testosterone at older ages leads to other health problems. I read this somewhere, I'll try to find it. My point is that a medium should be the approach. Since the body is naturally trying to do what nature is intending. Please advise if I'm "up in the night"
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An excess of anything will have consequences. Too much testosterone can increase the chance of prostate enlargement, shrink the testes, hypertension, heart disease, and cause hair loss. Excess testosterone can also be converted to estrogen, causing gynecomastia (or "bitch tits").
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So the question is; how much of the reduction in test production as " natural aging" should we accept. We could consider very low amounts normal, for a man middle agd or older.
Of course bodybuilders, use supra normal amounts and often suffer the results.
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Old 04-05-2009, 01:57 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Reading this article (which was wonderful BTW, so kudos again to BigAl), all I could think about is how freaking lucky are the younger members here and all other PE forums, with all that naturally occurring testosterone and GH running wild through their bodies. Assuming there's no undiagnosed health issues, I think the only thing that could stand in the way of gaining in PE during a man's "springtime" would be the over-eagerness that usually comes hand in hand with the abundant testosterone of youth.
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WMP, I have been trying trib and it does make the balls feel a little younger.
Any other suggestions, for us middle aged members, on this topic?
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Thanks, W.M.P. :)

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So the question is; how much of the reduction in test production as " natural aging" should we accept. We could consider very low amounts normal, for a man middle agd or older.
Of course bodybuilders, use supra normal amounts and often suffer the results.
Research seems to recommend keeping T levels at mid-normal.
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WMP, I have been trying trib and it does make the balls feel a little younger.
Any other suggestions, for us middle aged members, on this topic?
Trib is good, add in green tea it is also a aramoatose inhinbitor. The reason why I mentioned hypothyroid disease is because of a food product we consume in large amounts in the states that decreases thyroid function as well as testosterone. And that food product is soy.

If testosterone HRT is overdosed than you can start to develop large red blood cells that can cause a stroke. I think waht they do is boost HRP to about that of a man ten years younger im not sure. I 'll tell you waht giving test shots are not fun. big thick gooey ooey right in the ass. I had to gve one once.

But a he article stated thier is a cream that you can apply. So when these men are tested for low test levels they shiuld be tested for thyroid function as well.
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WMP, I have been trying trib and it does make the balls feel a little younger.
Any other suggestions, for us middle aged members, on this topic?
Well, the 1st step is to make sure you have a top-quality Tribulus product, which is not gonna be much more $$ than an average-quality one but the results will be palpable. Also, as lifted stated, Green Tea is a must; it lowers cortisol levels, which will in turn help you keep healthy testosterone levels. The one trick I would recommend to naturally jack up your testosterone levels, would be to sell all your possessions, move to Costa Rica and spend the rest of your days surrounded by a harem of 18yr old Ticas.
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Al, mid normal for a 20 year old, a50year old, or a 90 year old?
Lifted, I didn't think soy was eaten in such large quantity in the US? Though soy milk will get large aounts into the diet.
WMP, am drinking green and black tea, cut down on my coffee, my girl isn't 18 but she does raise my test level.
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Al, mid normal for a 20 year old, a50year old, or a 90 year old?
Lifted, I didn't think soy was eaten in such large quantity in the US? Though soy milk will get large aounts into the diet.
WMP, am drinking green and black tea, cut down on my coffee, my girl isn't 18 but she does raise my test level.

I thnk even drinking water raises test levels.

Vitamins, "A", "C", "D" also help raise test levels.
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Al, mid normal for a 20 year old, a50year old, or a 90 year old?
Most docs will recommend quantities based on the patient's age, but some men can handle higher doses. If you have to supplement with testosterone make sure that you're getting regular check ups. That way, if you're on a higher than recommended dose, they'll be able to catch issues before they get out of hand.
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Actually my test is over mid normal for my age. Not like I was at 20 years though.
Still I figure it will do , especially with some trib now and then.
For that matter, the gf tells me she doesn't want it any higher than it has been lately.
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Heavy, full body exercises like squats and deadlifts also go a long way towards stimulating GH release too.

One of my favorite workouts is the "breather style squats" or "breather style deadlifts" and pullover superset. This superset is purported to be one of the best ways of stimulating GH release. You do your other exercises first and you leave this exercise series for last. You do one set of breather style exercises using a weight that you would normally do for 10 very hard reps.

Let's use the breather squat for example. First and foremost, make sure you have a spotter or are doing this exercise in a power rack. Get under the bar and unrack the weight. Descend to a parallel position or better (see here for details on how to squat). After you complete each rep take several deep breaths as needed. Once you get past 10 reps you'll probably be taking quite a few breaths between each rep. After you've completed 20 reps, immediately lay across a bench, grab a light dumbell and do pullovers. This takes advantage of the heavy breathing you're doing and it further expands your rib cage. You may want to have a receptacle handy because nausea is likely after you're done.
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Yes used to do these when I was a kid.
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I still do these every once in awhile to finish off a workout. I just take a few sets off the top of my normal routine. It's a great series to do if you're short on time too.
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I remember high rep squats as beig tiring, surprised you can do these with a near full workout. Can't say I noticed an increase in test, but I waas young and had plenty anyway. They were good for condition for sports and I did gain a couple of pounds.
People told me they (with the pullovers) would improve my ribcage structure. Didn't have much luck there.
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If memeory serves me right when one test low for testosterone one also teast low for TSH, T3, T4 as well.

So if your thirty and your test is low the doctor may gradually increase test level to that of a healthy 25 year old. To much testosterone can make the red blood cells to big and they can explode and cause a stroke.
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