Originally Posted by UnderAve

Well, I can, and my clients without prior joint issues can, but this thread has turned from ideal body to movements and societal problems. As JP said, in Vietnam he saw the Nietnamiese always squatting down, they are "trained" (so to say) to do this. Here in America we have turned to a lazy soceity, even a lot of (especially high school) athletes are very restricted in movement and even sport skill.

As for the foot to butt move you can do, I really hope the massge therapist was misunderstanding something, because I have not seen anyone with normal knees not be able to have full knee flexion range.