A Beginners routine for NEWBIES. - Page 4

stef0607 · 08-15-2004, 10:02 PM

hi jp,

i've been doing your beginners routine and i jus have a couple of questions.

I have been jelqing and found that i am un able to sustain an erection as i used too whilst having sex. Is this because i am jelqing to hard.

I think i may be sqeazing to hard but i am not sure how hard to work out these jelq's.

I really don't want to over do it because ive heard you can damage the nerves in your penis making you impotent.

Can you please give me some advice on how hard to jelq?

JonPop · 08-15-2004, 10:39 PM

[quote=stef0607]hi jp,

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i've been doing your beginners routine and i jus have a couple of questions.

How long have you been doing my routine?

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I have been jelqing and found that i am un able to sustain an erection as i used too whilst having sex. Is this because i am jelqing to hard.

You very well could be overdoing it. Are you taking the required rest periods? Remember, your Penis is going through changes, this should even out as you become more used to the exercises.

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I think i may be sqeezing to hard but i am not sure how hard to work out these jelq's.

Just a nice firm grip at the base. Hold the squeeze as you slide up the shaft.
You want to squeeze just hard enough to move the blood.

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I really don't want to over do it because ive heard you can damage the nerves in your penis making you impotent.

If you follow my routine properly and do the exercises correctly, ie. proper warming, you will not injure yourself.

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Can you please give me some advice on how hard to jelq?

Hope this helps. JonPop

stef0607 · 08-16-2004, 05:58 PM

i've been doing your routine for a couple of days but i have been jelqin for the past three weeks.

i will rest for a few days to give me some healing time. I will jelq more gently in future and hopefully i will not over do it again.

I jelq sunday, monday, tuesday, thursday and friday with wednesday and saturday as my rest days.

I jelq in the shower. I warm my penis with the shower head for a few minutes, i will now do it for ten. also after wards i use a heated pad that u put in the microwave and have that heating my penis for about 15 minutes whilst i get ready. Is this a good method or shall i use another one?

Thankyou for your reply JP it has been very helpful in my quest for a bigger healthier penis.

Discitt · 08-19-2004, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JonPop

LOT (Loss of Tug).

This is a very important factor in the way you exercise.

Grasp your flacid penis under the glans in the O.K. grip. (Palm down)
Stretch straight up (This is 12:00) Do a hard Kegel. Do you feel it tug back?

(No need to pull too hard, as this can be very noticeable or can be very subtle.)

Stretch straight out (9:00) do a hard Kegel. Do you feel it tug back?

Stretch straight down (6:00) do a hard Kegel. Do you feel it tug back?

When you DON'T feel it TUG BACK, this is your Loss of Tug or LOT.

If your LOT is 6:00, you will need to do your exercises straight out and straight up.

If your LOT is 9:00 or higher, you will do exercises straight out and straight down.

You always want to exercise AGAINST the TUG

Most men find that they have low LOT. Mine is at 6:00. This means that the gains come harder and require more dedication and work to see the gains.

Men with high LOT, are very lucky. Their gains come easier and can utalize weight hanging. But don't be discouraged, the Gains will come if you are dedicated and stay on the program I have outlined below.
These are exercises to help you gain, regardless of LOT

JonPop

JonPop, I am a Newbie. I am feeling for my LOT and I have a tug in all position 6:00 is the weekest but I can feel a tug back. Does this mean anything, good, bad or nothing?
thank you for all the advice on this forum and subject.

Discitt

JonPop · 08-19-2004, 04:58 PM

Discitt, welcome to the BetterMan Forum. Many Newbies, (this is not a derogratory term, it means only, somebody new to something.) have trouble determining LOT. When you first decide to start a penis enlargement program, the Ligaments are very tight and most will get some degree of Tug- Back at all 3 positions. If you start on my routine, you will discover very quickly, your LOT. Please go to the "Progress Tracking" forum and post your starting stats. This will be a way to track your progress. JonPop

sr22 · 08-25-2004, 02:42 AM

its more efficient if you heat with moist heat, like a towel heated with hot water, or...the spa, or of course in the shower. Dry heat doesn't work as well. Forgot the scientific explanation, but you can look it up if you dont believe me, =P.

bullballs · 08-31-2004, 03:10 AM

OOps I forgot.. I've been doing balls jelq also.. Just want to make it biiger.. I have seen supra's thread also.. but if you have different techniques please let me know..
I prefer some free-supplements/tools techniques so I can do it with my bare hands

sr22 · 09-06-2004, 05:27 AM

this is aimed at jon, or anyone else that has knowledge; the supplements, i was in GNC the other day, picking up some protein and glutamine, and i decided to check out the pills you mentioned on the first page, and if im not mistaken, they are all for prostate health. Im in my early 20's, what can i expect if i were to take all the recommended pills? I dont want to be getting hard ons randomly throughout the day, pretty much anything else i can deal with. Thanks

Playtimer · 09-20-2004, 04:24 PM

Bump! He he he :)

Play

JonPop · 09-20-2004, 04:28 PM

sr22...Sorry about the time lag here.

The supplements I recommend are for:
Yes...The L-Argine and L-Lysine are for prostate health. You can never start too young keeping this VERY important part of yourself in tip-top shape.
But they also have added benefits that are essential to the tissue and colligan building necessary in the development of a larger penis.

The vitamins, Multi, Super B complex and Zinc are all part of a program to keep you healthy, overall. Take all of these for the recommended 90 Newbie Program I have outlined. Then, if you feel that you are not seeing improvement in this cycle...Your option....JonPop

Gb76 · 09-22-2004, 08:24 PM

JP, during the stretching, we have always "draw a circle from left to right" 10 times. Does it mean a full 360 degree which is parallel to your body, or a 180 degree which is vertical to your body?

Also, should the stretching give tension to the lig and tunica, the "inner part" of the shaft? When I was grabbing "Only the head", I'd feel a bit uncomfortable if I exert a bit more strength; However, that is ok if I grab the "head and part of the shaft" together to avoid the tension at the bottom of the gland.

Thanks in advance.

JonPop · 09-22-2004, 09:12 PM

Gb76 JP, during the stretching, we have always "draw a circle from left to right" 10 times. Does it mean a full 360 degree which is parallel to your body, or a 180 degree which is vertical to your body?

A BIG slow circle. Take your hand, point your index finger at the screen. Now, make a big circle with your finger. This is what I want you to do with your dick.

Also, should the stretching give tension to the lig and tunica, the "inner part" of the shaft? When I was grabbing "Only the head", I'd feel a bit uncomfortable if I exert a bit more strength; However, that is ok if I grab the "head and part of the shaft" together to avoid the tension at the bottom of the gland.

You don't want to pull the head of your dick off. Just a nice, easy pull to stretch the ligs. Do you grasp under the the head when doing left, right, up, down stretching with the Kegels? Same thing and it's O.K. to grab a little shaft doing these. JonPop

Thanks in advance.

Gb76 · 09-23-2004, 12:48 AM

JP, thanks for your reply.

So, you mean a 180 degree circle? (sorry for my slow mind)

As the stretch, I think I got it. :)

regards,
Gb

JonPop · 09-23-2004, 12:52 AM

A full circle is 360 degrees. A half circle is 180. Do 360. JP

One_track_lover · 10-12-2004, 07:27 PM

JP, I did your routine for the first time last night, loved the pumped look I had afterwards, but have one concern. Should I expect to feel any discomfort in the early stages of PE? I have a very (VERY) slight feeling of soreness on one side of my penis, is this to be expected or am I pushing myself too hard? I'll be sure to warm up very carefully before my next session tonight.

Thanks :)

JonPop · 10-12-2004, 08:15 PM

Hey one...Welcome here. Yes, since this is all new, you are doing things to your penis with my routine that is unlike masturbation. You are conditioning it to grow. Do not be so zellous to start. Warm up and warm down as per the routine. Stretch slowly and jelq lightly for awhile. Don't try and pull your dick off with the circle stretches. After warm down, massage your penis around the base to soothe the ligs. Hope this helps. JonPop

One_track_lover · 10-12-2004, 10:13 PM

Thanks for the advice JP, much appreciated.

offthewaller · 10-31-2004, 09:56 PM

I don't know if this has been covered. I went through posts and I didn't see anything on this. But is there a time frame from when you should do this routine? Like if you masturbate before, should you wait like 30 minutes or something? Or after you do this routine, should you wait for a time before you can masturbate? Thanks.

kdub · 10-31-2004, 11:47 PM

It is thought that sexual encounters and PE don't mix to well. Effects the bloodflow for the rebuilding process as well as a few other things like hormone release. But if you feel the need to masturbate or have sex don't let PE get in your way. Try and leave a couple of hours either way prior/after your workout for maximize gains though when possible.

Happy PEing Kdub

offthewaller · 11-01-2004, 05:06 AM

Yeah, I was thinking of that, just needed to know how much of a time frame it would be. So a couple hours rather than half and hour, lol. Now I know . :P Thanks

Shoe29 · 11-06-2004, 03:33 PM

http://www.betterman.com/showthread...&highlight=Bibs

^HEY GUYS, I'm a newbie. I was just reading through the forum and I came across that link above. On that site it recommends vig-rx. But, some of you say to stay away from penis pills. Anyway, would jelquing for 20 mintues 3-5 days a week yield decent results? What exercises can I do to gain an inch in girth and 2 inches in length? How long should I jelq before buying the Power Jelq device?

kdub · 11-06-2004, 03:46 PM

Welcome to the betterman forum Shoe29.

Go to the Penis Enlargement forum and read the "a beginners routine for NEWBIE'S" By JonPop. This will get you on your way to a safe and hopefully a bigger dick building career. This routine is designed to get your dick conditioned to PE before moving onto more advanced excersizes.

Stick with the routine for 6 weeks prior to using the Power Jelq. No need to buy it just yet.

Start a progress tracking thread in the Progress Tracking area and include your measurements as of now. This will give you a starting comparison for the future.

20 mins a day for a newbie is a bit much, you will probably do more harm than good ie. soreness which means you would have to rest.

As for pills, dont recommend them to expensive, inconclusive results. On JonPop's newbie routine there is a guide for supplements to take which can be bought at a local health store much cheaper than penis pills.

Anyway have a good read through the newbie routine and start as soon as possible. Be patient and don't rush as the gains will come.

Happy PEing, Kdub

offthewaller · 11-11-2004, 12:13 AM

Hey,
Got a question. It's starting to get cold now. How about the warmup heating, should that be lengthened? I'm a bit confused, because right after I take the wash cloth off it's really cold and feels like it just go tightneed again or something of that sort. Just an inqury, thanks.

JonPop · 11-11-2004, 12:31 AM

Hey OTW, reheat the wash cloth every 30 seconds or so. Want to keep it hot. If you do this for the recommended 8-10 minutes, you should feel your penis radiating heat at the end of this time. Never let the washcloth cool down. JonPop

offthewaller · 11-12-2004, 03:33 PM

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Hey OTW, reheat the wash cloth every 30 seconds or so. Want to keep it hot. If you do this for the recommended 8-10 minutes, you should feel your penis radiating heat at the end of this time. Never let the washcloth cool down. JonPop

I did that part just like what you said, reheat it and stuff. But I mean during the stretching and jelqs it gets kinda of chilly. No more heat like from the warm up i should say. Should I reheat after I do a set of jelqs or stretches?

JonPop · 11-12-2004, 07:35 PM

Hmmmm, might be time to turn on the heater and heat the house a bit.

Yeh, if it feels too cool, heat it up a bit, want to keep those ligs loose. JP

offthewaller · 11-12-2004, 07:56 PM

Yeah, we're not using the heater too much to try to save a few cents. I'll just reheat when needed. thanks :)

rightsideslide · 11-13-2004, 11:23 AM

my best time to do stretches is right when I wake up in the mornings. The heater is on in the house, my dick is already radiating heat (from being tucked in under my warm as heck covers) and I'm already warm all over. If the house is cold though, this all goes to pot and I have to turn on the heater and wait for it to get warm again - cold air will suck the heat right out of your johnson

offthewaller · 11-13-2004, 05:07 PM

Yeah. That's the peoblem I have the heat being sucked out of it. Sadly in the morning it is still really cold...we haven't used the heater very much. Not even at night.

2cents · 11-15-2004, 05:51 AM

I lived with almost no heat a few years back. If you can get your hands on a space heater, they do real well in a small enclosed space like a bathroom or bedroom with the door closed. You give them a half hour or so to run and they can make a good difference. That just made me think of something else - maybe keeping a hairdryer handy could be helpful.

Gb76 · 11-15-2004, 11:57 PM

The place I'm living is kinda cold. I've always used hot shower warm-up/down. So, I figured that if I close the door of the bathroom beforehand, then the heat produced by the water would warm the bathroom enough to finish the whole routine. However, sometimes you may want to find an oxygen mask to help you to breathe.

offthewaller · 11-16-2004, 04:31 AM

Heh, I see. Right now I'm using the routine to just mainly to strengthen, rahter to enlarge. But I don't want injury. I'm still 17, I think too young to actually PE for gains. Being 17, still in high school, no privacy really, so kind of hard for me to reheat and stuff. Thanks for more advice on things :)

Average Joe · 12-19-2004, 07:10 PM

Quick question about firmness... 30-60% erect is a pretty subjective number, so I'm requesting clarification. When I'm wet jelqing, should my unit feel rigid and resistant to my squeezes or should it give as I apply pressure? Right now when I jelq my member is at full length but if I let go after ten reps it droops down like it's flaccid. Should it have more spring in its step? I don't want to waste time and effort if I'm not in the proper state to make gains-- thanks!

Incubus · 12-20-2004, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Average Joe

Quick question about firmness... 30-60% erect is a pretty subjective number, so I'm requesting clarification. When I'm wet jelqing, should my unit feel rigid and resistant to my squeezes or should it give as I apply pressure? Right now when I jelq my member is at full length but if I let go after ten reps it droops down like it's flaccid. Should it have more spring in its step? I don't want to waste time and effort if I'm not in the proper state to make gains-- thanks!

Your penis should be ply able during Jelqing!! If it is ridged that is a bad thing!! You maybe to close to 100%. If your penis feels like it is going to a flaccid state just kegal between reps and force more blood into your shaft.

Average Joe · 12-20-2004, 05:51 PM

Thanks for the response, Inc. I think I'm where I need to be then, that is, plenty of blood in the ol' unit but not "stiff." Kegel'ing between reps is probably a good idea regardless, so I'll try that and see how it feels. Best, AJ.