A Beginners routine for NEWBIES. - Page 6

10 · 05-08-2005, 02:47 PM

Biscoloco:

First of all welcome to our Betterman family. Please read the forum guidelines and enjoy your PE experience.

Second, I need to caution you. If you haven't already completed the newbie routine, I highly recommend you do so BEFORE you implement the pj (power jelq). The power jelq is pretty intense and for someone who's penis isn't conditioned for regular PE workouts, you could be asking for an injury. The choice is of course yours, but I'd highly recommend against it, at least until the newbie workout phase is complete.

Überschwanz · 05-08-2005, 04:18 PM

Seeing as how it's too late to stop you, you should be warned that the PJ is not mentioned in the newbie routine for a reason. It puts a lot of stress on the penis and shouldn't be used until after you complete the newbie routine and have a conditioned penis. Trust me, you could easily injure yourself.

JonPop · 05-08-2005, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biscoloco

I just recieved my power jelcquer in the mail.

Tonight will be my first full PE routine. I will measure after the routine and post my erect stats later this week.

My first question. The newbie routine does not mention the use of the power jelqcer. I am going to use it and perform 150 "out" jelqs and 90 "up" ones.

I will let everyone know how it goes.

Actually, I do mention the JELQ Device, in the introduction to the Newbie thread. BUT, I recommended that the JELQ be incorporated AFTER the completion of at least 6 weeks of conditioning. (I highlighted this paragraph in BLUE.) JP

Biscoloco · 05-09-2005, 12:46 AM

I thank both of you for your quick replies. I definetly appreciate having experienced people to help guide me.

I did the entire newbie routine as described by Jon Pop and performed 150 out and 90 up jelcqs. I don't think that it put to much pressure on my unit.

My background in PEing, is that I read about jelquing a few years ago and ever since have been practicing non regular/non routine jelquing and kegels, typically before or during a masterbation session.

I do believe that without any prior PE experience one could seriously hurt one's self with power jelquer.

I may go forward with my routine, because I didn't feel too much discomfort. So discomfort should be expected I imagine to recieve the benefits.

For the time being, I have one question and one experience.

First, if I decide to heed your warnings and experience and go ahead with my routine, what is the best way to incoroporate the power jelcquer into the newbie routine.
Are my 150 out and 90 up a good routine to continue with?

Second, I have used the power jelcquer twice now. Once, just messing around with it when I first got it and last night when I incorporated the full routine.

My experience is that after I use it, my erection doesn't spring into action as quickly as it used to.

I think my experience is that before, whenever I would jelq, I would jelq until I couldn't stand it anymore and would finish myself off.

With this device, it seems my "little boy" quick erections won't spring into action as quickly as they did but when I do become fully aroused, which I think is harder because my penis is becoming more conditioned and "in shape", that the experience will me much more powerful and will lead to much stronger erections and orgasims.

Just a newbies 2 cents.

I'm glad to be a part of the forum and hope to contribute something. I plan to buy a ruler tongiht to take my first measurements and will post them this week.

10 · 05-09-2005, 02:18 AM

Sounds to me Biscoloco that you've overworked your dick. If you've been performing non-regular workout routines over the past few years, your dick isn't really conditioned for regular hard core PE.

The fact that you are having some erection difficulties tells me that you've overworked him recently. Jelqing until you "can't stand it anymore" isn't the way to go. What you want to do is pick a set number of reps to start off with and work up from there, just like working out.

For example, I will do anywhere from 200-400 pj's per day along with weight hanging and 3 part dry jelqs. BUT, I've been doing this consistently, religiously and on a very commited basis for 8 1/2 months now. Usually 4-5 days per week depending on my schedule.

My advice to you is if your going to incorporate the PJ into your newbie routine, I would do so moderately and only 50 reps PER WORKOUT. This is strictly my opinion and others may want to add their two cents worth, but you really need to start off slow and work your way up, just like weight lifting. I say this because if you keep slamming your unconditioned dick to 150 pj's per session, you might risk an injury which WILL set your gains and progress back further. Just my advice.

Überschwanz · 05-09-2005, 02:21 AM

Ditto to what 10 said.

Biscoloco · 05-10-2005, 03:06 AM

Jon Pop, if you recommend starting the beginners routine without the power j I will.

I would be stupid not to take your advice and risk an injury. I did feel discomfort using the power j.

Would it be ok for me to do 100 normal j's and then 50 with the power or should I wait?

I just want to see gains, but certainly do not want to be stupid.

Just as a general question, I looked on the power j's website and it outlines a routine using the pj without mentioning a beginners routine.

Is this dangerous advice, especially to new uninformed people like myself?

Thankyou for your advice, it might have saved me an injury if I had continued.

10 · 05-10-2005, 03:19 AM

Boy, now that's what I call a left handed compliment. I give the advice and old JP gets the credit. Tough crowd.

Überschwanz · 05-10-2005, 04:22 AM

10's heart has been crushed and his pride is wounded. JP is like a sponge when it comes to newbie praise.

Don't worry 10, I see the good you've done.

10 · 05-10-2005, 04:36 AM

Thanks Uber. I realize how important and invaluable JP is around here, hell, everyone knows that, but this one left a mark hehe.

Biscoloco · 05-10-2005, 07:06 AM

JP started the newbie thread so I wanted to thank him.

Tiger, you get a candy bar too.

Thank you.

10 · 05-10-2005, 02:22 PM

Gee, I'm flattered.

Biscoloco · 05-20-2005, 04:02 AM

10 maybe you can help me with this.

When doing the stretches, how long should I hold my kegels for. Typically a kegel as hard as I can and hold for about 1-2 seconds.

Also tommorow will mark my first full week of the newbie routine. I have not been using the PJ. Should I take 2 days off?

10 · 05-20-2005, 05:30 AM

Biscoloco:

Two seconds is fine. Yes, you should absolutely take a couple of days off to allow for rest and recovery.

vinsas3878 · 06-20-2005, 09:21 PM

where do i read the forum guidelines, also i have trouble finding a comfortable position to do any kind of jelqing so any suggestions

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Überschwanz · 06-21-2005, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vinsas3878

where do i read the forum guidelines, also i have trouble finding a comfortable position to do any kind of jelqing so any suggestions

Right here. You'll have to be more specific about what you've tried and why you don't like it. It's hard to answer a question that actually hasn't been asked.

vinsas3878 · 06-29-2005, 02:50 AM

Well I have been jelqing for about three weeks now and have seen some improvement. Though I havent measured it yet my wife can see and feel a difference. Have one question though my shaft is getting some thickness but now the head needs some help. JonPop or anyone what exercises do you recommend to help with this problem.

JonPop · 06-29-2005, 04:04 AM

vinasa3878, jelqing. Wet jelqing, dry jelqing, Power Jelq device, Uli's. Blow that puppy up, it will.

vinsas3878 · 06-29-2005, 07:23 PM

Thank you JonPop, another thing how does that V-Jelq work is it palm towards you or palm away when u jelq. I know the way you do it but is it palm towards your belly when u start or away?

10 · 06-29-2005, 07:46 PM

It's palm side towards your belly.

Dark Ice Sliver · 08-24-2005, 04:41 AM

yeah i dont really have an agenda with pe, I dont write down this huge schedule and all this jabber, i just go about my routine; I do the warm-up, stretches, and then i do my jelqing and it is very consistent jelqing

guitardude · 09-05-2005, 07:36 PM

Hi guys,

I've been lurking around off and on for a few months now and am encouraged by what some of you have been able to achieve following the advice of JP and others. But I have a few questions to toss out and get some feedback on:

OK, a little background first.. I would be best described as a morbidly obese man (something I am working on, but it is taking time). Add to that the fact that I am below average in the "package" department (not exactly sure on the measurements, but I'm guessing about 4.5 in. EL), and you have a quandry (or I do, at least) in how to go about doing this program.

I've been doing some reading on this and other sites having to do with PE and had decided a few weeks ago to give it a try based on what I read so far from here. I even went so far as buying the supplements and a power jelq device. However, I ran across one site the other day from a Dr. by the name of Dr. Lin at actionlove.com. It looks like from what I can read from his site that he is pushing pills to achieve results for his "patients". Also, if you don't already know, he is adamantly against natural PE methods such as stretching, jelqing, etc. The Dr. says if your body doesnt have the proper nutrients or if you have over masturbated etc, that growing a bigger penis is impossible. A skeptical mind would think it's just a marketing gimmick by reading the material on his site.

When I am standing upright, my penis is almost covered by the fat. This would make it very difficult, if not impossible, to do some of the exercises even though I want to. I've thought about trying to do some of the exercise laying down because it would be about the only position giving me good enough access.

So, the bottom line now is that I am somewhat confused about all this. I really do want to do something to improve my penis size if it can be done, and am mature enough to know that it will take time and to be patient enough not to rush it. I've started this week to take the supplements JP posted about anyway for healths sake because I need it. I plan on doing the PE exercises in a couple of weeks if I do decide to go for it. But the feedback here is going to be a deciding factor.

I would appreciate comments/advice/opinions from people who have successfully done it, preferably under similar conditions as I find myself in if there are members here fitting that description. But if you aren't the size of a refrigerator, don't let that stop you from posting if you think you can offer something that will help. ;)

Regards,
guitardude

guitardude · 09-08-2005, 04:04 PM

I did some more research and found that in fact my initial gut feeling was right about the good "Dr. Lin".. the guy is probably a quack and undoubtedly is a con man of sorts so I don't think I'll let myself be tempted into believing his lies any longer.

So now, it looks like I will start on a natural PE program. I'll just have to figure out a way of doing it that will remain true to the plan and that will allow me to reasonably do, given my physical limitations at the present time.

Regards,
-guitardude

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitardude

Hi guys,

I've been lurking around off and on for a few months now and am encouraged by what some of you have been able to achieve following the advice of JP and others. But I have a few questions to toss out and get some feedback on:

OK, a little background first.. I would be best described as a morbidly obese man (something I am working on, but it is taking time). Add to that the fact that I am below average in the "package" department (not exactly sure on the measurements, but I'm guessing about 4.5 in. EL), and you have a quandry (or I do, at least) in how to go about doing this program.

I've been doing some reading on this and other sites having to do with PE and had decided a few weeks ago to give it a try based on what I read so far from here. I even went so far as buying the supplements and a power jelq device. However, I ran across one site the other day from a Dr. by the name of Dr. Lin at actionlove.com. It looks like from what I can read from his site that he is pushing pills to achieve results for his "patients". Also, if you don't already know, he is adamantly against natural PE methods such as stretching, jelqing, etc. The Dr. says if your body doesnt have the proper nutrients or if you have over masturbated etc, that growing a bigger penis is impossible. A skeptical mind would think it's just a marketing gimmick by reading the material on his site.

When I am standing upright, my penis is almost covered by the fat. This would make it very difficult, if not impossible, to do some of the exercises even though I want to. I've thought about trying to do some of the exercise laying down because it would be about the only position giving me good enough access.

So, the bottom line now is that I am somewhat confused about all this. I really do want to do something to improve my penis size if it can be done, and am mature enough to know that it will take time and to be patient enough not to rush it. I've started this week to take the supplements JP posted about anyway for healths sake because I need it. I plan on doing the PE exercises in a couple of weeks if I do decide to go for it. But the feedback here is going to be a deciding factor.

I would appreciate comments/advice/opinions from people who have successfully done it, preferably under similar conditions as I find myself in if there are members here fitting that description. But if you aren't the size of a refrigerator, don't let that stop you from posting if you think you can offer something that will help. ;)

Regards,
guitardude

SonicCelt · 09-08-2005, 05:56 PM

Your a sharp guy guitardude. Hope all goes well with your overall self improvement plan and I can tell you there are some knowledgeable lads on the boards here when it comes to fitness and health. Don't hesitate to ask questions on any aspect and lets get you on the road to a better image.
By the way....I love my '74 Les Paul Pro, Fender flat top and my Takamine 12 string

guitardude · 09-14-2005, 11:06 PM

Thank you very much for the kind words SonicCelt! That is what I intend to do, get a better image..

By the way, NICE guitars there :) I have a 75 heavily modified Strat, a modded 82 Tele, and Epiphone Les Paul Custom with Bigsby Tremolo, a Jackson Fusion EX with EMG pickups, an Ovation 1828 (super shallow body electric-acoustic guitar), and a Yamaha AEX 500 (Nylon stringed electric-acoustic). You might say I am guitar gear poor ;) But I love all the instruments; they serve a unique purpose.

Ok.. I'll stop raving about guitar gear now since this is NOT a guitar forum. :D

Regards,
-guitardude

Scopio82 · 09-29-2005, 02:24 PM

Hey, I have this prob, When I try the milking method, I tend to squeeze my skin up too.. would it hinder the performance? What should i do ?

want8 · 09-29-2005, 02:30 PM

Welcome to Betterman Scopio. Hope you get out of this what you are looking for. Are you using any lube? A good lubed shaft should help let the skin slide. But you could also use one hand pressing against the stomach holding the skin back while you Jelq. Although I don't think this should be a problem anyway. As long as you are filling the penis with blood, you should be ok.