A Beginners routine for NEWBIES.

JonPop · 03-24-2004, 01:56 PM

Any NEWBIES reading this, Welcome to the BetterMan Forum.

Before Posting, Read the Forum Guidelines.

This routine is designed to start you on your way to a longer and thicker penis. This will help you prevent injury, while teaching you the basics of penis exercises. This routine DOES work. These are the exercises I started with, on my way to gaining 2 1/4" in length and 1 1/2" in girth in just over a year of doing PE.. I still do these exercises as I have found them to be a great routine. I would also recommend the PowerJelq Device to be incorporated into the exercises after completion of 6 weeks of this basic routine. As you progress, I will help each of you individualy, with more advanced routines. JonPop

JonPop · 03-24-2004, 02:26 PM

Attention:

There has been much discussion about the LOT Theory and it's benefit to PE. It seems to be, that the consensus among the veteran PE'rs on these boards are;
The LOT Theory makes no difference in gains.

When I wrote the Newbie Routine, this was the prevailing determining factor in which direction to exercise. The feeling now, is that exercises should be done in all directions, regardless of LOT.

LOT (Loss of Tug).

This is a very important factor in the way you exercise.

Grasp your flacid penis under the glans in the O.K. grip. (Palm down)
Stretch straight up (This is 12:00) Do several hard Kegels. Do you feel it tug back?

(No need to pull too hard, as this can be very noticeable or can be very subtle.)

Stretch straight out (9:00) do several hard Kegels. Do you feel it tug back?

Stretch straight down (6:00) do several hard Kegels. Do you feel it tug back?

When you DON'T feel it TUG BACK, this is your Loss of Tug or LOT.

If your LOT is 6:00, you will need to do your exercises straight out and straight up.

If your LOT is 9:00 or higher, you will do exercises straight out and straight down.

You always want to exercise AGAINST the TUG

Most men find that they have low LOT. Mine is at 6:00. This means that the gains come harder and require more dedication and work to see the gains.

Men with high LOT, are very lucky. Their gains come easier and can utalize weight hanging. But don't be discouraged, the Gains will come if you are dedicated and stay on the program I have outlined below.
These are exercises to help you gain, regardless of LOT

JonPop

JonPop · 03-24-2004, 02:49 PM

Warming UP.

This is one of the most important things you do to prevent injury:

With a HOT wash cloth, warm your entire groin area for a period of 8 to 10 minutes. Re-heat washcloth every minute or so to keep it hot.

Making sure your penis is wrapped and throughly heated.
You want to feel your penis radiating heat when you are through. You want to warm all the LIG's even the ones under your penis and the sides of your groin area.

JonPop · 03-24-2004, 03:49 PM

If you can, do these exercises in front of a full length mirror.

Grasp your warmed up,FLACID (Try and stay as flacid as you can for these stretching exercises, 30% erection is ideal)PENIS between the thumb and first finger at the base. Palm toward belly. Stretch out slightly and do what are called "Helicopter Shakes." Useing your wrist, swing your penis around in a circle, about 5 revs per second for a quick count of 20.

Grasp your penis under the glans in O.K. grip and stretch to the left. holding the stretch against the theigh.
While holding this stretch, do 25 quick (a quick count to 25) Kegels.
Next, while still holding the stretch, pull straight out and do 10 stretches in a BIG circle to the left and 10 to the right holding the pull.

Return to the base and repeat "Helicopter Shakes". It will be easier to do now, as your flacid length will be longer. This will get the blood back into the glans.

Stretch to the right and do 25 quick Kegels. Pull straight out and do 10 BIG circles to the left and ten circles to the right.

Repeat "Helicopter Shakes."

Stretch straight out, do Kegels, repeat circle stretches.

Repeat "Helicopter Shakes."

Stretch straight up do Kegels and repeat circle stretches.

Finish with "Helicopter Shakes."

These are the basic stretching exercises I want you to do as a prelude to the next step, Wet Jelqing.

JonPop · 03-24-2004, 04:23 PM

WET JELQING:

No need to re-warm as your Ligs will be nice and loose now.

Useing a good lube. (I use a water based lube by the brand name of Suave, with Vit E and Lanolin, found in any drug store)

A couple of squirts of lube in each hand. (Re-lube often when it starts to feel dry) Hint...get a little water on your hands, this re-activates the lube already on the hands and shaft.
Grasp your penis at the base firmly, in the O.K. grip, palms faceing down.
Slide, holding the grip, up to the glans. While holding the grip at the glans, start your other hand at the base. when half way up the shaft, release the grip at the glans and continue the slide up, trapping the blood at the glans and upper shaft. Both hands count as one rep. Repeat these "Wet Jelqs" for a count of 50 reps. If you become erected, stop and wait for it to subside some. You want to be about 60% to 70%* erected for these. Do these slowly. About 3 or 4 seconds per rep. As you become more used to these exercises, it won't feel as much like masturbation and you will not get erected as easily. Do these exercises straight out.
-------"V" JELQS
Next, do what are called "V" Jelqs. These are done by useing the V between your middle and fourth fingers. Cup your hand and slide up the shaft with your fingers curled toward your belly and the underside of your shaft resting in the "V". The fingers should be rideing on the sides of your shaft. Make sure you use lots of lube as you want to slide smoothly for these exercises. When you reach the glans, start your other hand up. These are a great exercise for Head Girth,Overall Girth and Stretching.

As you are sliding up the shaft, pull straight up. Alternate by pulling up and to the right, up and to the left. Do 30 of these reps.

Repeat with 50 "Wet Jelqs" and 30 "V" Jelqs.

Do a total of 150 "Wet Jelqs" and 90 "V" Jelqs.

*Revision.....7/9/04

After further research, I am now recommending: Not Less than 30% and Not More than 60% for all exercises in this routine. I feel (after going back and doing this Newbie Routine for a couple of weeks now, trying to improve upon it.) that 60% to 70% is too erected to acheive the desired results.

JonPop · 03-24-2004, 04:39 PM

Warm Down;

This is VERY important. This will prevent trama injury to your penis.

Do the same as warming up, HOT wash cloth. Warm down for a minimum of 5 to 6 minutes. Do these exercises to start, for 5 days and then, Important, take 2 full days off from PE. This will give your penis a chance to heal and grow, but continue to do your Kegels. Try and do 300 to 500 a day.

As you start to see results, usually girth and flacid length, first, the temptation to go overboard will be great. But, and I stress this, Don't try and jump into some of the advanced routines posted here in this, or other forums. These exercises are designed to start you on your way to a Longer and thicker penis and to PREVENT injury.

As you progress, and master these exercises, usually about a 3 month time period to see length gains, but you will see flacid and some girth gains as early as 3 weeks. If you have any questions, please post in the NEW thread I started in this forum, titled "Newbies Please Sign In." Remember all of your gains are permanent. Good luck to all, in your quest to become a Betterman.

JonPop.

JonPop · 03-24-2004, 04:50 PM

These Supplements are all you will need.

Stay away from Penis Enlargement Pills. These are a waste of money.

Take these every day for the duration of this program. Then decide if you want to continue with these supplements.*

1 Super B complex.
1 Multi Vitamin & Minerals.
1 60 mg Zinc.
2 500mg L-Arginine capsule.
1 500 mg L-Lysine.

REVISED:
To avoid build-up in fatty tissue, of some of the vitamins such as "A", decrease all these supplements to a 5 day on 2 day off routine. Your body will sluff-off any build-up in this period.

JonPop.

Mighty Mouse · 03-25-2004, 03:24 PM

Excellent stuff JP! A true help to the PE community!

I'm diggin' the new avatar.

Mighty

Bulge · 03-26-2004, 08:24 AM

Bulge here. Great routine! I started pretty soon after I began PEing using Rob's PowerJelq device. For me, my gains are mainly credited to using his device. I even stretch using it. If any of you guys are interested in buying it, be sure to specify the new rollers. They are much improved over the foam ones and you get a stronger pull.
For many of you, girth will come before length. If you are lucky, both will occur together.
I dry jelq using the device and wet jelq using the hand for mega squeeses.
JonPop has given you a good outline to begin your quest for a much larger and thicker member. Be long suffering with yourself!

bulge, who never plans to stop PEing

Mighty Mouse · 03-28-2004, 05:32 PM

Here is a pretty useful PE site:

http://www.go-penis-enlargement.com/index.html

This gives a good intro to many exercises, and has some other interesting info regarding PE.

Mighty

Mighty Mouse · 03-29-2004, 09:02 PM

Here is more info on the LOT theory. Scroll down to Rob's post in this thread. It explains the full LOT Theory.

What is LOT?

Mighty

Mighty Mouse · 04-01-2004, 03:52 PM

I encourage all of the NewBies to try JonPop's Beginner's routine out. I just did it this morning to mix up my routine. It gives a good warm up, stretch, and work out. Highly recommended for the beginner or vet who wants to mix it up a little! I plan on adding it to my routine once a week.

Thanks JP!

Mighty

Playtimer · 04-01-2004, 04:18 PM

That's right,Mighty;)
I need a change in my routine too,so I'm gonna mix it a bit. I think JP's suggestions are very good,so I'm adding them starting from today.

Play

Takamine · 04-06-2004, 02:12 AM

"Next, while still holding the stretch, pull straight out and do 10 stretches in a BIG circle to the left and 10 to the right holding the pull"

not sure what to do here, any help?

P.S

I got a concussion from playing rugby, should I stop doing PE?

JonPop · 04-06-2004, 02:03 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Takamine
"Next, while still holding the stretch, pull straight out and do 10 stretches in a BIG circle to the left and 10 to the right holding the pull"

not sure what to do here, any help?

Welll..Picture an OLD car. Picture the crank used to turn the motor with, to start it. Isn't this why sometimes your dick is called a "Crank"?

P.S

I got a concussion from playing rugby, should I stop doing PE?

Only if it hurts to "Crank" your dick. Lol

Seriously, if any form of exercise gives you headaches, or if you feel nauseous. Best not to do any exertion for awhile. JonPop

Flook · 04-08-2004, 03:42 AM

Well it says "Next, do what are called "V" Jelqs. These are done by useing the V between your middle and fourth fingers." Is the fourth finger the pointer or the ring. Do you make like you are throwin a knuckleball. I'm sorry I don't understand. I looked all around and couldn't find an answer can you help a brotha out.
Thanks,
Flook

PEcrastinator · 04-08-2004, 05:00 AM

Yeah man i'm on board with that question too... a little confused on the V jelqs..

Also, should a beginner stick with the rep schemes provided for full 3 months? I personally am on week 6 of my own PE ing so I am still fresh enough to mix it up.

And another thing on LOT, if my LOT is at the straight out position, should all my jelqing be done to that direction? Or straight up for that matter? OR do you do the exercise in teh direction where you don't feel any pull back?

thanks.

JonPop · 04-08-2004, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PEcrastinator
Yeah man i'm on board with that question too... a little confused on the V jelqs..

Also, should a beginner stick with the rep schemes provided for full 3 months? I personally am on week 6 of my own PE ing so I am still fresh enough to mix it up.

Yes, If you are useing my routine, follow it exactly

And another thing on LOT, if my LOT is at the straight out position,

Is your LOT at the straight out position? Determine your LOT and tell me what it is and I will tell you what to do.

should all my jelqing be done to that direction? Or straight up for that matter? OR do you do the exercise in teh direction where you don't feel any pull back?

thanks.

JonPop · 04-08-2004, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Flook
Well it says "Next, do what are called "V" Jelqs. These are done by useing the V between your middle and fourth fingers." Is the fourth finger the pointer or the ring.

Thumb, Index Finger, Middle Finger, 4th Finger, Little Finger.
Remember this, there will be a test tomorrow.

Do you make like you are throwin a knuckleball. I'm sorry I don't understand. I looked all around and couldn't find an answer can you help a brotha out.
Thanks,
Flook

Mighty Mouse · 04-08-2004, 05:57 PM

As JP requested:

Spock has the technique down. Palms up, start at the base, slide up to the glans, stretching/pulling up.

JonPop · 04-08-2004, 06:55 PM

Thanks MM, you are a Bud. It's said, "A picture is worth a thousand words" JP

Flook · 04-09-2004, 01:04 AM

Good looking out. Thanks for gettin back to me. Sorry about the finger confusion. I think I got everything worked out now.

Flook · 04-09-2004, 04:18 AM

I ordered the PJ device and was thinking about the Penismaster or something like that. I have done your routine for two days since I found it but when the PJ comes do you have a routine with that or should I do the PJ in addition to the newbie routine. Also what stretcher thingy should I get? I gotta get in full swing here.
Thanks for helping,
Flook

PEcrastinator · 04-09-2004, 04:19 AM

Thanks for the help soo far. You are correct, my LOT is when i pull down to the floor- so at 6. Straight up is at its strongest.

I also have found that i tend to prefer jelqing straight out and slightly down.. if i focus on jelqing to the ground, i don't feel as productive. Not sure if this goes against or with what you are saying.

thanks a million. Just broke up with EX so i need some new confidence as i try to find a replacement!

JonPop · 04-09-2004, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Flook
I gotta get in full swing here.
Thanks for helping,
Flook

If you are doing my ROUTINE you are in the full swing of what you should be doing.

NEWBIES; You can't force your Penis to grow, only encourage it to grow.

JonPop

JonPop · 04-09-2004, 02:15 PM

PEcrastinator, yes. You want to exercise against the Tug. You have low LOT so you want to exercise straight out and straight up. My Newbie routine is designed to do just this. JP

PEcrastinator · 04-09-2004, 02:42 PM

Ok one more question, for V jelqs, you mention pulling up. In order to do this, would i not have to have my hand with fingers pointing to the ground so that as i pull up with the V grip i'm actually seeing the inside of my fingers and my palm moving towards the ceiling...seems to me the other way would be hard as you would have to bend your wrist all the way back as if you were pushing a door open..

So digging and scopping in a sand box vs. pushing a door open.

Does that make any sense?

Also when you stretch straight out in a circular fashion to left and right, when you start the stretch circling, is this a rather wide corcle or a smaller one to keep you ont he right plains and thus avoiding straight down where the LOT begins?

And seeing whil ei am at it, How much supplementation per day? I already take L-arginine -2 500mg caps a day. what are your other guidelines for say Zinc?

Finally, can decent gains be acheived off of 3-4 times a week on this program? I don't have the time or privacy to commit more.

Sorry for the questions but i think they'll help tons of newbies out!.

JonPop · 04-09-2004, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PEcrastinator
Ok one more question, for V jelqs, you mention pulling up. In order to do this, would i not have to have my hand with fingers pointing to the ground so that as i pull up with the V grip i'm actually seeing the inside of my fingers and my palm moving towards the ceiling...

Look at your hand. Cup your hand. Spread the 3rd and 4th fingers. Insert Penis. Pull up

Also when you stretch straight out in a circular fashion to left and right, when you start the stretch circling, is this a rather wide corcle or a smaller one to keep you ont he right plains and thus avoiding straight down where the LOT begins?

Big Circle. 360 degrees.

And seeing whil ei am at it, How much supplementation per day? I already take L-arginine -2 500mg caps a day. what are your other guidelines for say Zinc?

Go back and read SUPPLEMENTS part of post

Finally, can decent gains be acheived off of 3-4 times a week on this program? I don't have the time or privacy to commit more.

Do the exercises as time permits.

PLEASE...Read the FORUM GUIDELINES.

Sorry for the questions but i think they'll help tons of newbies out!.

PEcrastinator · 04-09-2004, 05:24 PM

Oh geez, must have been late when I was reading that! Sorry, you clearly had it written.

thanks again, you've been really helpful.

Rocketfuel · 04-10-2004, 12:15 PM

Hi,

May I ask why you suggest the following vitamins etc? Rocketfuel

1 Super B complex.
1 Multi Vitamin & Minerals.
1 60 mg Zinc.
2 500mg L-Arginine capsule.
1 500 mg L-Lysine.

JonPop · 04-10-2004, 01:28 PM

Rocketfuel;

I'm Not going into Pharmacology of Vitamins.
This short and simple list of Vitamins and supplements has come about from years of experiance, Dr's advice and input from many fellow PE'rs.
These are all you need (along with a sensible diet) to keep you healthy, happy and growing. Do my routine, take these supplements and in 90 days you will see an improvement in your wellbeing and overall health.

JonPop

Bulge · 04-10-2004, 03:42 PM

"May I ask why your suggestion?"

Hey Rocket,
Your dick and balls like this stuff. You will be supplying what your lower body between your legs needs to make its max semen, hardness, length (flaccid and erect), and girth. I would add one more... SAW PALMETTO. This helps keep prostate healthy.
You need to taking all this stuff on a regular basis and as you get older, you will have less problems down there.
ISN'T THIS WHAT WE'RE ABOUT? TO STAY HEALTHY AND SEXUALLY FIT?
KNOWLEDGE IS EXPLODING IN EVERY HEALTH FIELD THESE DAYS AND WE NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT!
My Dr. is the son of a retired Urologist. He grew up on "dick talk"! His Dad told him "In all my years of practice at no time did a guy walk into his office to be examined and ask him to take some off!"
bulge

Playtimer · 04-10-2004, 05:10 PM

Absolutelly correct!

Everybody,these two guys (Bulge and JonPop) DO know what they are talking about.
Please take their advices seriously if You want real growth.
Their results speak for themselves.

Play

Methodman · 04-20-2004, 03:08 AM

Mighty mouse recommended a site.. i assume it's legit.. the site states that the pills work, but jonpop says that they are a waste of money.. can someone clear this up please.

PEcrastinator · 04-20-2004, 03:17 AM

Hey guys,

I was reading that going in excess of 100 mg of vitamin B6 a day may not be wise as there are side effects to nerves.. I noticed that with my multi vitamin having 75 mg of B6 and my B6 pill, i am getting 175 mg a day! Is this not overkill? I am thinking of dropping it down and relying only on the multi vitamin. I'll keep up the l-arginine, l-lysene, and zinc though...

thoughts? feelings?