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dangler

The garlic is for help with circulation as I was up until very recently a heavy smoker (part of the reason I quit running and training) and since I intend to start again cardio vascular health is a must, the fish oil is for suppleness as I am not very flexible at all and suffer from joint pain in my hands due to my work, multi vits I have more or less always taken as I dont always eat healthily and the amino acids were an after thought after reading your newbie routine and the supplements you recomended, the ginkgo is only a possible as it also helps with circulation.

Edit - forgot to add, most of the supplements I will only be taking for about 3 to 4 months until I have settled back into my running and light weight training schedule then I can re-assess what I dont get enough of in my diet.

Dangler.

seven_up

Hello once again gentlemen. Sorry I've been away so long, but I gave myself more time to heal from that injury. I think I'm good now and I've started the JonPop's recommended routine. My start date was July 01. Here are my starting stats:

el 5 1/8"
eg 5"

See you next month!!

Hey, have any of you guys heard about using hypnosis for penis enlargement? Let me know!

JonPop

Hey 7_up, good to see you back. NOW get to work:D

Don't know about Hypnosis. Tried to hypnotise myself once, by saying over and over, "Your Dick is getting bigger", just got a headache:p



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equs

JonPop,

Thanks for answering-- I asked about the PJ again in a reply to 'Just an Observation' before I read this message-- wanted you to know I don't have ADD.

My LOT is probably 6 o'clock. I can feel a really weak tug at 7:30 or 7, but at 6, it's gone. So I do the exercises up and out, never down.

Some good news: I measured wrong on the flacid length, so it's 3 15/16" instead of 3 1/2
--a gain, even if it's only psyychological.

All the measurements are non-BP.

Will supply erect girth when I remember to measure before a workout (not much co-operation afterwards).

equs

Methodman

equs, there's a reason almost everyone here measures bone pressed. It is much more accurate/exact. My suggestion is do both like me... I mean you might as well.

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Rico

Wanted to introduce myself as a new member. Glad I stumbled onto this site...Rico

Mighty Mouse

Welcome to Betterman Rico!

Have you got started on a routine yet? Do you have any prior PE experience? What are your stats and goals?

Jon Pop has a good beginner routine that you should give a try. Its in the thread "Newbie Routine for Beginners."

Good luck,

Mighty

Rico

THanks for the welcome. I have no prior PE experience. I started manual Jelqing when I ran across this web site and the one for the PJ device. After reading through many of the threads here, I have decided to purchase the PJ and use it in conjunction with the MaxXtender. Both came in the mail yesterday.
Up until now I have been doing manual Jelqing as well as PC exercises. My PC muscles seem to be pretty well developed so I'm looking forward to starting tonight. I imagine I will be a hard gainer as I have a LOT of 6.
I plan on doing the PJ 4-5 times a week with a few days off to recover. I will start with about 50 strokes and hopefully work my way up from there. After the PJ, I will use the MaxXtender for 1-2 hours immediately following. I have a clean diet and get plenty of excess vitamins/minerals. Here are my starting stats:

Flacid Length: 10.5cm
Flacid Girth: 10cm

Erect Length: 12.5cm
Erect Girth: 12cm

I wanted to know if anyone else has the same problem I do. My erect length is pretty short compared to the flacid length, however my erections are so strong that my manhood points directly upward toward my face. I can't apply enough pressure to have it go down to the 9 position. I wondered if that would affect my gains? Is this a medical condition that would require having my shaft adjusted so I could not stand straight up?

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tZcc

Hello all!

Great setup here! Just reading the Rules of Conduct just about defeated all my skepticism.

Anyway here are the vitals:

Erect:
BPL - 5.5"
NBPL - 5"
Base Girth - 4.5"
Mid Girth - 4"

Flaccid:
BPL - 4.5"
NBPL - 4"
Base Girth - 4"
Mid Girth - 4"

Goal:
BPL - a bit above 7"
NBPL - about 7"
Girth - As long as it can still get in! (probably no more than 6")

LOT - 7:30-8:00

Here's a bit of background:

I am cut and my physical and sexual health is rather good. Currently on the way to losing some weight that's been on the agenda for a while! Huzzah!

A can usually go a few rounds no problem and pace myself. PC muscle control is fairly good. I'm rather happy with my girth, so I don't have any specific goals for my girth gains (Although I don't want it to get too big so it doesn't go it! ). And so far no complaints from the ladies (Although I have no clue what they say to their friends in the post-game report)

Did a few weeks of hand-jelqing (with warmups and stretches), but quit after my hand started to get tired doing it. Found this website and ordered to PJ and man... all I have to say is:

Thank God for mechanical advantage!

So far the workouts seem more intense (playing around with JP's and IrishDan's methods to see which one I like better) and vastly easier on my hands and arms, but I have a few questions before I start posting my progress:

1. What constitutes being 'exhausted'? Are there any specific or otherwise acute feelings? Basically my equipment just seems to be a little more red and hanging a bit more, but otherwise no particular feelings (after 150 full reps and not numb mind you).

2. When I use the PJ device and I start at the base, it pulls a lot of extra skin near the scrotum and kind of drags it along for a little bit before jumping to the rest of the shaft. Should I hold that back or let it be?

3. If I'm less interested in girth and PC control, can I skip some of the hand jelqing and kegel exercises? Or are all the exercises there because they complement each other? What sort of dependencies exist in PJ's Newbie exercise? (And IrishDan's if anyone wants to theorize)

I think that's about it. Thanks all for your support and info in advance!

Charles

Hey guys, I'm new at this, will start my routine tomorrow. I posted on the general forum my goals, which are different from most. I had surgery for prostate cancer two years ago and since then have had difficultly with erections, even while taking Viagra, Muse, and those damn injections. I'm going to be using these exercises in an attempt to restore firm erections. Will keep you guys posted on my progress.

Überschwanz

Hi guys,

I started PEing a couple of weeks ago. My dimensions are down below. I'm not obsessed with all the flacid measurements and such; maybe I'll record them later. I'm a slim guy with a high metabolism (only 135) but I have a nice starting size I think. Anyway, I want to be the kind of guy that can say to girls, "You wouldn't know it by looking at me, but...".

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Charles

I just received my JELQ and have only performed the exercise once. I posted under the Men's Lounge that my goal is to recover from the effects of surgery for prostate concer. I have been unable to have satisfactory (i.e. not firm and not large) erections since the surgery, though my medical teach offers no explanation. Prior to the surgery I had adequate erections using viagra. I just turned 64.

Playtimer

Guys,
You are all welcome to www.betterman.com !

We are glad to have You here,I hope there will be plenty useful things for You around.

Now let's get down to business :D

Play

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Playtimer

[quote]Originally posted by tZcc
1. What constitutes being 'exhausted'? Are there any specific or otherwise acute feelings? Basically my equipment just seems to be a little more red and hanging a bit more, but otherwise no particular feelings (after 150 full reps and not numb mind you).

This means that You actually FEEL Your penis being worked enough.You can't get full erection easy as You could before PE session,You hang lower,and maybe a little sore.

2. When I use the PJ device and I start at the base, it pulls a lot of extra skin near the scrotum and kind of drags it along for a little bit before jumping to the rest of the shaft. Should I hold that back or let it be?

Try pulling all extra skin back with one hand before each rep,squeeze at the base,lock,and pull towards the head.If there's still some skin that "jumps" over the head,don't worry about it. You must concetrate on moving the blood inside the shaft.

3. If I'm less interested in girth and PC control, can I skip some of the hand jelqing and kegel exercises? Or are all the exercises there because they complement each other? What sort of dependencies exist in PJ's Newbie exercise? (And IrishDan's if anyone wants to theorize)

Yes,You can skip some of the exercises,but I don't know how Your results would be. Each routine is designed as step-by-step exercise,and each part of it depends on another. These are complete workouts,proven,and tested. They are made to work,so it's Your pick if You don't want the whole thing.

I think that's about it. Thanks all for your support and info in advance!

Thank YOU for joining!
Good luck,

Play

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Playtimer

Charles,

Please post more about workout You use. We would be glad to help in any way we can.
:)

Good luck,

Play

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kal

hey everyone, Ive been browsing the forum for a while, but just registered. Ive been pe'ing for about 2 months, and I just noticed some gains, but they are slow. I figure everyones expertise would be beneficial. I work out every other day with the power jelqer, here is my routine-

5-10 minute warm up cloth
5 min of stretching
150 manual jelqs
400 power jelqs
hot shower

bpfl-3.7"
bpfg-3"
bpeg-4.8"
bpel-6"

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Rico

Out of curiosity, why manual jelq instead of just using the Power Jelq? Rico

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JonPop

Hey kal. Welcome to the BetterMan.
Mrs. JonPop's birthday is October 26th. also. Not too many of you guys around. (How many people have you found with your birthday?)

Anyway, sounds like you have a pretty good routine going, but would suggest you add the "V" Jelqs to your workout. How about Kegels? You didn't mention these. 400 Power Jelqs are pretty intense for only 2 months into PE, so listen to your body and back off if any problems arise (pun intended.)

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kal

hey Jonpop, my ex girlfriends birthday is also october 26, and I know a couple people who share it also. Anyway, what exactly is the "v" jelq?

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JonPop

Hey kel. The reason I wrote that, is that my wife is always looking for people born on 10/26. She is always remarking about how few of them there are. She went all through school and never met anyone with that date. She always threw this up to me about how unique she was :D
A couple of people; Hillery Clinton and Pat Sajak

Go to the thread, Beginners Routine For Newbies. You will find all you need to know about "V" Jelqs. JP

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Überschwanz

Hey JonPop,

Like some of the others around here I am still a little confused about the V Jelqs. I've read through your routine more than a dozen times and I think I understand about 95% of how to do them. The problem I have is that I have looked all over the forums and can't figure out one little thing: When you use the V in your fingers to pull upward, is the webbing between your fingers supposed to press against your dorsal vein or against your urethra? In other words, with your palm upward, is your hand going to be 1)between your body and penis or 2)should your hand be on the other side of the penis with the penis between the body and hand?

Maybe you or somebody with a digital camera could upload a picture to clear up any confusion once and for all. I bet this is getting annoying for you with people asking the same question over and over. :(

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JonPop

Hmmmm. I've done "V" Jelqs for so long that I had to re-read your question several times to try and determine the problem you or anyone else might be experiencing. I have found that the ideal erect level for "V" Jelqs to be about 50%. So let me try and answer your questions.

I have found that there is really no set position for the fingers or webbing and I'll tell you why. I will hand jelq, maybe 20, 25 reps then switch and do 10, 15 "V" Jelqs and then back to wet jelqing for 15, 20, 30 reps and throw in a few "V" Jelqs to mix everything up. Doing everything in a rhythm. When I cup my hand and insert my dick between the middle and fourth fingers and pull straight up, my fingers are....middle finger on the bottom of the shaft and fourth finger on the top of the shaft. When I pull up and to the right, with my right hand, my middle finger is on the outside, left and my fourth finger on the outside right on the shaft. When I pull up left, with my left hand, my middle finger is on the outside right and fourth finger is on the outside left of the shaft. This works the entire circumfrence of the penis. You realize Uberschwanz, that you have to master the "V" Jelqs part of the Newbie routine or you will have to repeat the class untill you are old like me:D

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Überschwanz

Thanks for clearing up the confusion JonPop. I was thinking something like that was probably right. :)

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sr22

i dont think i have signed into this thread yet....

been doing PE since the beginning of the year, some of it has been off and on, some of it has been consistant action. In two months of consistant action, i've gained an inch in girth and length putting me at 7/5. Been on this forum for about a month and a half now to pick up some more tips, looking to hit 8/6 like most. I was satisfied; along with my previous partners, with the size of my member, also with how i used it. I've gotten many compliments about my action in bed, so now we'll see where the new size gets me.

Blaze56t9

I was just going to read through this board before i decided to get any of this stuff cause im not sure if it work i am 28 and at 6" want to get to 8" or 9" and maybe gain a little girth. I just was curious doesn't it damage the nerves when you stretch it or can these exercises damage any nerves at all. And what would be a good way to start out i have never done this before so im a virgin to this

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JonPop

Welcome to the BetterMan, Blaze56t9.

Go to The Penis Enlargement Forum. "Beginners Routine For Newbies."
Start on these exercises. Post your starting stats in the Progress Tracking Forum.
The best of luck to you in your quest for a larger Penis. JonPop

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age_tazza

Hi everyone,

Ive been reading now for a about a week or so on increasing the length and girth of my penis. Im 16, and I can easily say that it has always been something Ive worried about. Im really looking forward to getting started and hopefully seeing some results in the near future. As I dont have access to a credit card, I wont be able to really purchase any of the products that most users seem to be using, so manual jelqing will have to be the way to go. Hope my peristence pulls it off in the end.

Has anyone else had to shave the hair around the base of their penis to avoid from pulling when jelqing? And if so, what are the best methods to do this, Ive tried it once and it was extremely irritating. Not something I want to go through again.

Ill post my starting stats in the next day or so, but I think Ill keep reading more just to see what it is I have to really do to get the maximum result.

tazza

Überschwanz

I shave about once every week with a standard safety razor. The difference, however, is that I don't necessarily try to get the whole hair off down to the skin. This way you can avoid ingrown hairs and irritation. I know some people in these forums pluck but that's not for me.

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age_tazza

Thanks Überschwanz,

Ill keep that in mind when I begin. I have tried JP's method once and the hair was just too annoying to keep going.

Thanks a lot for your quick reply.

tazza

age_tazza

Hi everyone,

I know Im new to the whole technique, but I have a real problem with not getting hard when I do the exercises. In other words, Im always getting complete erections, meaning that I cant do the exercises properly.

Does anyone know anything I could do to counter this or has anyone had a similar experience? Is it something you just learn to not do?

Thanks again

tazza

Incubus

Tazza,

Welcome. I would like to let you know that getting wood during these exercises is perfectly normal. In fact it will take some getting use to in order for your dick to calm down. Just take a short break and let your erction subside a little. This takes some control. This will also help in your sex life, being able to control your erections. Good luck and happy dick growing.

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