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JonPop · 06-30-2004, 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by JJ007
Hey eveyone,

Just wanted to say that this is a great site and from just reading old posts for a few days I have already learned a lot. I have started today with JonPop's routine for starters.

My goals are to get about 2''-3.5'' in length and about 2''-3'' in girth.

Hey JJ. Welcome here. Your goals might be a little high, upper figure, but 8" X 6" is very realistic for you. JonPop

JJ

JonPop · 06-30-2004, 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by dangler
Hi all

Starting with -

Flacid length - 3.5"
Flacid Girth - 4" (mid shaft)
BPFL - 5"

Erect length - 6"
Erect Girth - 5"
BPEL - 7.5"

LOT 6:00 (stop seeing movement around 7:30)

Goal is to get flacid length and girth up to around 6"x5"(non bone pressed), and if it stays in proportion should be around 8"x6" erect, mainly because I am 6'4" and my tool looks tiny (to me anyways) and I put the 1.5" Bone pressed gains down to me being about 25 pounds over weight and having quite a beer-belly.

Following JonPop's newbie routine at the moment (2 days on 1 day off), though I have experimented with a bit of PE in the past mainly just wet jelqing and a little stretching but never really stuck at it. Currently taking multi-vitamins and cod liver oil supplements as well as a healthy diet but soon to be taking a multi-vitamin and mineral capsule, 1000mg Garlic oil, 1000mg Fish oil (no A and D vits like cod liver oil but the same omega fatty acids), 1000mg combined amino acid capsule and a 500mg L-Arginine capsule, possibly 1 500mg Ginkgo leaf tablet as well.

Hi dangler, welcome to the forum. WOW, that's quite a list of supplements. What made you decide to take this particular combination? Do you weight train? Are you sure your body needs this?
Great starting stats. Good luck in your quest. JonPop

Dangler.

dangler · 06-30-2004, 11:14 PM

The garlic is for help with circulation as I was up until very recently a heavy smoker (part of the reason I quit running and training) and since I intend to start again cardio vascular health is a must, the fish oil is for suppleness as I am not very flexible at all and suffer from joint pain in my hands due to my work, multi vits I have more or less always taken as I dont always eat healthily and the amino acids were an after thought after reading your newbie routine and the supplements you recomended, the ginkgo is only a possible as it also helps with circulation.

Edit - forgot to add, most of the supplements I will only be taking for about 3 to 4 months until I have settled back into my running and light weight training schedule then I can re-assess what I dont get enough of in my diet.

Dangler.

seven_up · 07-02-2004, 11:42 PM

Hello once again gentlemen. Sorry I've been away so long, but I gave myself more time to heal from that injury. I think I'm good now and I've started the JonPop's recommended routine. My start date was July 01. Here are my starting stats:

el 5 1/8"
eg 5"

See you next month!!

Hey, have any of you guys heard about using hypnosis for penis enlargement? Let me know!

JonPop · 07-03-2004, 12:08 AM

Hey 7_up, good to see you back. NOW get to work:D

Don't know about Hypnosis. Tried to hypnotise myself once, by saying over and over, "Your Dick is getting bigger", just got a headache:p

JonPop

equs · 07-03-2004, 08:40 AM

JonPop,

Thanks for answering-- I asked about the PJ again in a reply to 'Just an Observation' before I read this message-- wanted you to know I don't have ADD.

My LOT is probably 6 o'clock. I can feel a really weak tug at 7:30 or 7, but at 6, it's gone. So I do the exercises up and out, never down.

Some good news: I measured wrong on the flacid length, so it's 3 15/16" instead of 3 1/2
--a gain, even if it's only psyychological.

All the measurements are non-BP.

Will supply erect girth when I remember to measure before a workout (not much co-operation afterwards).

equs

Methodman · 07-03-2004, 02:18 PM

equs, there's a reason almost everyone here measures bone pressed. It is much more accurate/exact. My suggestion is do both like me... I mean you might as well.

Rico · 07-07-2004, 08:49 PM

Wanted to introduce myself as a new member. Glad I stumbled onto this site...Rico

Mighty Mouse · 07-07-2004, 10:33 PM

Welcome to Betterman Rico!

Have you got started on a routine yet? Do you have any prior PE experience? What are your stats and goals?

Jon Pop has a good beginner routine that you should give a try. Its in the thread "Newbie Routine for Beginners."

Good luck,

Mighty

Rico · 07-10-2004, 10:39 PM

THanks for the welcome. I have no prior PE experience. I started manual Jelqing when I ran across this web site and the one for the PJ device. After reading through many of the threads here, I have decided to purchase the PJ and use it in conjunction with the MaxXtender. Both came in the mail yesterday.
Up until now I have been doing manual Jelqing as well as PC exercises. My PC muscles seem to be pretty well developed so I'm looking forward to starting tonight. I imagine I will be a hard gainer as I have a LOT of 6.
I plan on doing the PJ 4-5 times a week with a few days off to recover. I will start with about 50 strokes and hopefully work my way up from there. After the PJ, I will use the MaxXtender for 1-2 hours immediately following. I have a clean diet and get plenty of excess vitamins/minerals. Here are my starting stats:

Flacid Length: 10.5cm
Flacid Girth: 10cm

Erect Length: 12.5cm
Erect Girth: 12cm

I wanted to know if anyone else has the same problem I do. My erect length is pretty short compared to the flacid length, however my erections are so strong that my manhood points directly upward toward my face. I can't apply enough pressure to have it go down to the 9 position. I wondered if that would affect my gains? Is this a medical condition that would require having my shaft adjusted so I could not stand straight up?

JonPop · 07-11-2004, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by Rico

I wanted to know if anyone else has the same problem I do. My erect length is pretty short compared to the flacid length, however my erections are so strong that my manhood points directly upward toward my face. I can't apply enough pressure to have it go down to the 9 position. I wondered if that would affect my gains? Is this a medical condition that would require having my shaft adjusted so I could not stand straight up?

Hey Rico. Welcome to the BetterMan Forum.

Sounds like you have VERY TIGHT Ligs. Get going on my Beginners Routine, warm up those Ligs and get stretching. No this is not a medical condition. As you loosen your ligs, you will not only gain in length, your erection will not be as tightly pointed upward. Even if you decide not to do my routine, remember to WARM UP and WARM DOWN before and after exercising. With ligaments this tight, you don't want to tear anything. This includes warming before useing the MaxExtender.

JonPop

tZcc · 07-14-2004, 01:54 AM

Hello all!

Great setup here! Just reading the Rules of Conduct just about defeated all my skepticism.

Anyway here are the vitals:

Erect:
BPL - 5.5"
NBPL - 5"
Base Girth - 4.5"
Mid Girth - 4"

Flaccid:
BPL - 4.5"
NBPL - 4"
Base Girth - 4"
Mid Girth - 4"

Goal:
BPL - a bit above 7"
NBPL - about 7"
Girth - As long as it can still get in! (probably no more than 6")

LOT - 7:30-8:00

Here's a bit of background:

I am cut and my physical and sexual health is rather good. Currently on the way to losing some weight that's been on the agenda for a while! Huzzah!

A can usually go a few rounds no problem and pace myself. PC muscle control is fairly good. I'm rather happy with my girth, so I don't have any specific goals for my girth gains (Although I don't want it to get too big so it doesn't go it!

). And so far no complaints from the ladies (Although I have no clue what they say to their friends in the post-game report)

Did a few weeks of hand-jelqing (with warmups and stretches), but quit after my hand started to get tired doing it. Found this website and ordered to PJ and man... all I have to say is:

Thank God for mechanical advantage!

So far the workouts seem more intense (playing around with JP's and IrishDan's methods to see which one I like better) and vastly easier on my hands and arms, but I have a few questions before I start posting my progress:

1. What constitutes being 'exhausted'? Are there any specific or otherwise acute feelings? Basically my equipment just seems to be a little more red and hanging a bit more, but otherwise no particular feelings (after 150 full reps and not numb mind you).

2. When I use the PJ device and I start at the base, it pulls a lot of extra skin near the scrotum and kind of drags it along for a little bit before jumping to the rest of the shaft. Should I hold that back or let it be?

3. If I'm less interested in girth and PC control, can I skip some of the hand jelqing and kegel exercises? Or are all the exercises there because they complement each other? What sort of dependencies exist in PJ's Newbie exercise? (And IrishDan's if anyone wants to theorize)

I think that's about it. Thanks all for your support and info in advance!

Charles · 07-16-2004, 01:53 AM

Hey guys, I'm new at this, will start my routine tomorrow. I posted on the general forum my goals, which are different from most. I had surgery for prostate cancer two years ago and since then have had difficultly with erections, even while taking Viagra, Muse, and those damn injections. I'm going to be using these exercises in an attempt to restore firm erections. Will keep you guys posted on my progress.

Überschwanz · 07-16-2004, 05:59 AM

Hi guys,

I started PEing a couple of weeks ago. My dimensions are down below. I'm not obsessed with all the flacid measurements and such; maybe I'll record them later. I'm a slim guy with a high metabolism (only 135) but I have a nice starting size I think. Anyway, I want to be the kind of guy that can say to girls, "You wouldn't know it by looking at me, but...".

Charles · 07-16-2004, 01:02 PM

I just received my JELQ and have only performed the exercise once. I posted under the Men's Lounge that my goal is to recover from the effects of surgery for prostate concer. I have been unable to have satisfactory (i.e. not firm and not large) erections since the surgery, though my medical teach offers no explanation. Prior to the surgery I had adequate erections using viagra. I just turned 64.

Playtimer · 07-17-2004, 04:18 PM

Guys,
You are all welcome to www.betterman.com !

We are glad to have You here,I hope there will be plenty useful things for You around.

Now let's get down to business :D

Play

Playtimer · 07-17-2004, 04:30 PM

[quote]Originally posted by tZcc
1. What constitutes being 'exhausted'? Are there any specific or otherwise acute feelings? Basically my equipment just seems to be a little more red and hanging a bit more, but otherwise no particular feelings (after 150 full reps and not numb mind you).

This means that You actually FEEL Your penis being worked enough.You can't get full erection easy as You could before PE session,You hang lower,and maybe a little sore.

2. When I use the PJ device and I start at the base, it pulls a lot of extra skin near the scrotum and kind of drags it along for a little bit before jumping to the rest of the shaft. Should I hold that back or let it be?

Try pulling all extra skin back with one hand before each rep,squeeze at the base,lock,and pull towards the head.If there's still some skin that "jumps" over the head,don't worry about it. You must concetrate on moving the blood inside the shaft.

3. If I'm less interested in girth and PC control, can I skip some of the hand jelqing and kegel exercises? Or are all the exercises there because they complement each other? What sort of dependencies exist in PJ's Newbie exercise? (And IrishDan's if anyone wants to theorize)

Yes,You can skip some of the exercises,but I don't know how Your results would be. Each routine is designed as step-by-step exercise,and each part of it depends on another. These are complete workouts,proven,and tested. They are made to work,so it's Your pick if You don't want the whole thing.

I think that's about it. Thanks all for your support and info in advance!

Thank YOU for joining!
Good luck,

Play

Playtimer · 07-17-2004, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by Charles
I just received my JELQ and have only performed the exercise once. I posted under the Men's Lounge that my goal is to recover from the effects of surgery for prostate concer. I have been unable to have satisfactory (i.e. not firm and not large) erections since the surgery, though my medical teach offers no explanation. Prior to the surgery I had adequate erections using viagra. I just turned 64.

Charles,

Please post more about workout You use. We would be glad to help in any way we can.
:)

Good luck,

Play

kal · 07-18-2004, 11:04 AM

hey everyone, Ive been browsing the forum for a while, but just registered. Ive been pe'ing for about 2 months, and I just noticed some gains, but they are slow. I figure everyones expertise would be beneficial. I work out every other day with the power jelqer, here is my routine-

5-10 minute warm up cloth
5 min of stretching
150 manual jelqs
400 power jelqs
hot shower

bpfl-3.7"
bpfg-3"
bpeg-4.8"
bpel-6"

Rico · 07-18-2004, 06:28 PM

Out of curiosity, why manual jelq instead of just using the Power Jelq? Rico

JonPop · 07-18-2004, 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by Rico
Out of curiosity, why manual jelq instead of just using the Power Jelq? Rico

Hi Rico. I'll try and answer this.

Hand Jelqing is an exercise unto it's self. You are working the entire circumfrence of the penis. Each exercise I have recommended in my Newbie routine, compliments the other. The JELQ is a marvelous tool and is great for the purpose it was designed for, but I feel that it doesn't trap the blood in the shaft as well as the O.K. grip while hand jelqing.
For compression squeezing and stretching with a device, the JELQ is the best tool on the market and it's use alone will give great results.
BUT, for a complete PE workout, use this in conjunction with my routine.

JonPop

JonPop · 07-18-2004, 07:58 PM

Hey kal. Welcome to the BetterMan.
Mrs. JonPop's birthday is October 26th. also. Not too many of you guys around. (How many people have you found with your birthday?)

Anyway, sounds like you have a pretty good routine going, but would suggest you add the "V" Jelqs to your workout. How about Kegels? You didn't mention these. 400 Power Jelqs are pretty intense for only 2 months into PE, so listen to your body and back off if any problems arise (pun intended.)

JonPop

kal · 07-18-2004, 09:17 PM

hey Jonpop, my ex girlfriends birthday is also october 26, and I know a couple people who share it also. Anyway, what exactly is the "v" jelq?

JonPop · 07-18-2004, 10:46 PM

Hey kel. The reason I wrote that, is that my wife is always looking for people born on 10/26. She is always remarking about how few of them there are. She went all through school and never met anyone with that date. She always threw this up to me about how unique she was :D
A couple of people; Hillery Clinton and Pat Sajak

Go to the thread, Beginners Routine For Newbies. You will find all you need to know about "V" Jelqs. JP

Überschwanz · 07-20-2004, 06:21 AM

Hey JonPop,

Like some of the others around here I am still a little confused about the V Jelqs. I've read through your routine more than a dozen times and I think I understand about 95% of how to do them. The problem I have is that I have looked all over the forums and can't figure out one little thing: When you use the V in your fingers to pull upward, is the webbing between your fingers supposed to press against your dorsal vein or against your urethra?

In other words, with your palm upward, is your hand going to be 1)between your body and penis or 2)should your hand be on the other side of the penis with the penis between the body and hand?

Maybe you or somebody with a digital camera could upload a picture to clear up any confusion once and for all. I bet this is getting annoying for you with people asking the same question over and over. :(

JonPop · 07-20-2004, 03:06 PM

Hmmmm. I've done "V" Jelqs for so long that I had to re-read your question several times to try and determine the problem you or anyone else might be experiencing. I have found that the ideal erect level for &q